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	<title>Comments on: Dreaming 5th Generation War</title>
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	<description>All of us against the machine</description>
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		<title>By: Surviving the Vortex of Violence &#171; Pax Pac News and Essays</title>
		<link>http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2005/07/20/dreaming-5th-generation-war.html/comment-page-1#comment-242845</link>
		<dc:creator>Surviving the Vortex of Violence &#171; Pax Pac News and Essays</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 07:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] war, and what we can do about it.   From the article: &#8230;the next generation of war &#8211; the so-called &#8220;fifth-generation&#8221; &#8211; won&#8217;t feature armies or clear ideas. It will be what U.S. Army Major Shannon [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] war, and what we can do about it.   From the article: &#8230;the next generation of war &#8211; the so-called &#8220;fifth-generation&#8221; &#8211; won&#8217;t feature armies or clear ideas. It will be what U.S. Army Major Shannon [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The First Rule of 5GW is, You Do Not Talk About 5GW &#171; The Committee of Public Safety</title>
		<link>http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2005/07/20/dreaming-5th-generation-war.html/comment-page-1#comment-224212</link>
		<dc:creator>The First Rule of 5GW is, You Do Not Talk About 5GW &#171; The Committee of Public Safety</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 07:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a comment &#187;  Fifth Generation War (5GW) is a heretical offshoot of Fourth Generation Warfare (4GW). 4GW divides modern military [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a comment &raquo;  Fifth Generation War (5GW) is a heretical offshoot of Fourth Generation Warfare (4GW). 4GW divides modern military [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Laying the Foundations: Part 1 Sequential Design &#171; Red Herrings</title>
		<link>http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2005/07/20/dreaming-5th-generation-war.html/comment-page-1#comment-223664</link>
		<dc:creator>Laying the Foundations: Part 1 Sequential Design &#171; Red Herrings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 21:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ThoughtStorms wiki where he was plucking interesting bits and phrases from Dan TDAXP&#8217;s Dreaming 5th Generation War. “5th Generation Wars will be created with Waterfall Development? We can see what 5GWs will be [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ThoughtStorms wiki where he was plucking interesting bits and phrases from Dan TDAXP&#8217;s Dreaming 5th Generation War. “5th Generation Wars will be created with Waterfall Development? We can see what 5GWs will be [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gathering dimensions of conflict into a unified model</title>
		<link>http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2005/07/20/dreaming-5th-generation-war.html/comment-page-1#comment-211927</link>
		<dc:creator>Gathering dimensions of conflict into a unified model</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Dan at tdaxp in 2005 diagrammed out a new aspect of the fifth generation warfare concept that placed the generations within aspects of the John Boyd OODA model. This is an intriguing element that maps back to what Younghusband recently posted. If you consider the Trinitarian aspects as valid within the scope of conflict and begin to dissemble the theory into it&#8217;s parts. Dan at tdaxp does that by looking at different systems models like the waterfall model and the rapid application development model. When layering the different aspects the model becomes much more rich and you can perceive aspects that are explained by the model before you have even asked the question. In looking at the models and applying them through a spectrum of conflict basically so I can argue that cyber warfare and cyber terrorism are explained within the scope (my open and obvious agenda) of the different models.  The model should have enough depth to accept the original elements of national power diplomacy, intelligence, military, economics (DIME) or the newer counter terrorism approach of military intelligence, diplomacy, legal, information, financial and economic (MIDLIFE). Personally I&#8217;ll stick with the less redundant, if over come by events , DIME acronym and acknowledge that yes I know the other one exists. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Dan at tdaxp in 2005 diagrammed out a new aspect of the fifth generation warfare concept that placed the generations within aspects of the John Boyd OODA model. This is an intriguing element that maps back to what Younghusband recently posted. If you consider the Trinitarian aspects as valid within the scope of conflict and begin to dissemble the theory into it&#8217;s parts. Dan at tdaxp does that by looking at different systems models like the waterfall model and the rapid application development model. When layering the different aspects the model becomes much more rich and you can perceive aspects that are explained by the model before you have even asked the question. In looking at the models and applying them through a spectrum of conflict basically so I can argue that cyber warfare and cyber terrorism are explained within the scope (my open and obvious agenda) of the different models.  The model should have enough depth to accept the original elements of national power diplomacy, intelligence, military, economics (DIME) or the newer counter terrorism approach of military intelligence, diplomacy, legal, information, financial and economic (MIDLIFE). Personally I&#8217;ll stick with the less redundant, if over come by events , DIME acronym and acknowledge that yes I know the other one exists. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Militarization of the Left II: Reflections from the IDF &#171; Stephen Pampinella</title>
		<link>http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2005/07/20/dreaming-5th-generation-war.html/comment-page-1#comment-167505</link>
		<dc:creator>The Militarization of the Left II: Reflections from the IDF &#171; Stephen Pampinella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 23:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is coming to kill them, and resistance is necessary. A better message (entirely consistent with 5GW/SecretWar) would be &#8220;I understand you, I am not trying to kill you, and I am not your enemy.&#8221;   [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is coming to kill them, and resistance is necessary. A better message (entirely consistent with 5GW/SecretWar) would be &#8220;I understand you, I am not trying to kill you, and I am not your enemy.&#8221;   [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Militarization of the Left: Reflections from the IDF &#171; Stephen Pampinella</title>
		<link>http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2005/07/20/dreaming-5th-generation-war.html/comment-page-1#comment-167504</link>
		<dc:creator>The Militarization of the Left: Reflections from the IDF &#171; Stephen Pampinella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 23:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is coming to kill them, and resistance is necessary. A better message (entirely consistent with 5GW/SecretWar) would be &#8220;I understand you, I am not trying to kill you, and I am not your enemy.&#8221;   [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is coming to kill them, and resistance is necessary. A better message (entirely consistent with 5GW/SecretWar) would be &#8220;I understand you, I am not trying to kill you, and I am not your enemy.&#8221;   [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mutually Exclusive Paths to Fifth Generation Warfare (5GW) Success &#171; PurpleSlog</title>
		<link>http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2005/07/20/dreaming-5th-generation-war.html/comment-page-1#comment-139430</link>
		<dc:creator>Mutually Exclusive Paths to Fifth Generation Warfare (5GW) Success &#171; PurpleSlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 03:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Waterfall model: here and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: tdaxp &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Taxonomies of Creativity</title>
		<link>http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2005/07/20/dreaming-5th-generation-war.html/comment-page-1#comment-98456</link>
		<dc:creator>tdaxp &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Taxonomies of Creativity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] appears to be that mere Experts are foreclosed to creativity by over rigid mental structures, ignoring conflicting observations, lack of psychopathology, and other things that can be avoided by the looser (but still [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] appears to be that mere Experts are foreclosed to creativity by over rigid mental structures, ignoring conflicting observations, lack of psychopathology, and other things that can be avoided by the looser (but still [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dan tdaxp</title>
		<link>http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2005/07/20/dreaming-5th-generation-war.html/comment-page-1#comment-98039</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan tdaxp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Snowden,

&lt;blockquote&gt;I think the defining characteristic of 5GW operations will be surprise declarations of victory, without any indications hostilities had commenced.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Great summary!  Certainly it goes well with Aherring&#039;s &quot;Operative Actions&quot; [1]!  I used your quote in my recent discussion of the rescue of the FARC&#039;s hostages [2].

Michael,

Who really pulled the strings is still debated (mostly in China), because the Communist Party&#039;s continuous desire to shield Mao from most blame.

[1] http://dreaming5gw.com/2007/10/xgw_left_of_boom_right_of_boom.php
[2] http://www.dreaming5gw.com/2008/07/operational_check_as_tactical.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snowden,</p>
<blockquote><p>I think the defining characteristic of 5GW operations will be surprise declarations of victory, without any indications hostilities had commenced.</p></blockquote>
<p>Great summary!  Certainly it goes well with Aherring&#8217;s &#8220;Operative Actions&#8221; [1]!  I used your quote in my recent discussion of the rescue of the FARC&#8217;s hostages [2].</p>
<p>Michael,</p>
<p>Who really pulled the strings is still debated (mostly in China), because the Communist Party&#8217;s continuous desire to shield Mao from most blame.</p>
<p>[1] <a href="http://dreaming5gw.com/2007/10/xgw_left_of_boom_right_of_boom.php" rel="nofollow">http://dreaming5gw.com/2007/10/xgw_left_of_boom_right_of_boom.php</a><br />
[2] <a href="http://www.dreaming5gw.com/2008/07/operational_check_as_tactical.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.dreaming5gw.com/2008/07/operational_check_as_tactical.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: 5GW Links - 9 May 2008 &#171; PurpleSlog</title>
		<link>http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2005/07/20/dreaming-5th-generation-war.html/comment-page-1#comment-69167</link>
		<dc:creator>5GW Links - 9 May 2008 &#171; PurpleSlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 22:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2005/07/20/dreaming-5th-generation-war.html#comment-21509 [...]</description>
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