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		<title>By: tdaxp &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 5GW: A Free-for-all of surprise destruction</title>
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		<dc:creator>tdaxp &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 5GW: A Free-for-all of surprise destruction</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 01:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that secretwar of hidden movements, relies on a waterfall development model, whether it is a state exporting 5GW, a state conducting [...]</description>
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		<dc:creator>Reality and the Iraq war-Politics and Government-EOG Sports Betting Forums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 05:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the initiative so that you can lead your opponents where you want them to be. Above excerpted from: tdaxp » Blog Archive » 5GW: Soundless + Formless + Polished + Leading   A Day Late, $3 Trillion Short and a Generation Behind   Fourth Generation Warfare in a Fifth [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dan tdaxp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan tdaxp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 08:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> &lt;p&gt;Mark,&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Hmmm...  a DDOS attack [1] would be more 3GW or 4GW...  Perhaps a 5GW enemy of blogs would merely set up blogger&#039;s owners in some conflict with the American people (by convincing them to censor themselves ), thus bringing about a take-down of blogger without actually getting their hands dirty...&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; I&#039;m happy that Coming Anarchy [3] and Phatic Communion [4] like the idea of formlessness. :-)&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; [1] &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2005/05/04/network-politics-introduction-net-attacks-and-counter-attacks.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2005/05/04/network-politics-introduction-net-attacks-and-counter-attacks.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; [2] &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.outer-court.com/censored/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://blog.outer-court.com/censored/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; [3] &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cominganarchy.com/archives/2006/03/10/truly-formless-5gw/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.cominganarchy.com/archives/2006/03/10/truly-formless-5gw/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; [4] &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.phaticcommunion.com/archives/theory/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.phaticcommunion.com/archives/theory/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,</p>
<p> Hmmm&#8230;  a DDOS attack [1] would be more 3GW or 4GW&#8230;  Perhaps a 5GW enemy of blogs would merely set up blogger&#39;s owners in some conflict with the American people (by convincing them to censor themselves ), thus bringing about a take-down of blogger without actually getting their hands dirty&#8230;</p>
<p> I&#39;m happy that Coming Anarchy [3] and Phatic Communion [4] like the idea of formlessness. <img src='http://www.tdaxp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p> [1] <a href="http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2005/05/04/network-politics-introduction-net-attacks-and-counter-attacks.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2005/05/04/network-politics-introduction-net-attacks-and-counter-attacks.html</a><br /> [2] <a href="http://blog.outer-court.com/censored/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://blog.outer-court.com/censored/</a><br /> [3] <a href="http://www.cominganarchy.com/archives/2006/03/10/truly-formless-5gw/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.cominganarchy.com/archives/2006/03/10/truly-formless-5gw/</a><br /> [4] <a href="http://www.phaticcommunion.com/archives/theory/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.phaticcommunion.com/archives/theory/</a></p>
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		<title>By:  phil </title>
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		<dc:creator> phil </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> &lt;p&gt;&quot;In 5GW the enemy&#039;s knowledge of your existence all but ends your plans.&quot;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Not necessarily. Let&#039;s say a 5GW campaign were under way and I had a &quot;fingertip feeling&quot; that led me to actually &quot;see&quot; it. It&#039;s entirely likely if I tried to tell other people what was going on that they would simply dismiss me as paranoid and a conspiracy nut, even accuse me of McCarthyism and witch-hunting. If the 5th generation warrior is doing something illegal he will eventually draw the attention of law enforcement. But if the 5GW tactics are legal, then law enforcement won&#039;t be a problem. Which means that citizens who become aware of the 5GW campaign will have to act on their own within the law but outside of government and operate a counter-5GW campaign. Nothing remains secret forever especially in a free society, but legal activities can be done out in the open without attracting attention because they appear to be run-of-the-mill and normal, certainly nothing to be concerned about. Free societies offer the 5th generation warrior the ability to &quot;hide in plain sight&quot; and still be able to pull off a victory without the loser being aware of what happened.&lt;/p&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In 5GW the enemy&#39;s knowledge of your existence all but ends your plans.&#8221;</p>
<p> Not necessarily. Let&#39;s say a 5GW campaign were under way and I had a &#8220;fingertip feeling&#8221; that led me to actually &#8220;see&#8221; it. It&#39;s entirely likely if I tried to tell other people what was going on that they would simply dismiss me as paranoid and a conspiracy nut, even accuse me of McCarthyism and witch-hunting. If the 5th generation warrior is doing something illegal he will eventually draw the attention of law enforcement. But if the 5GW tactics are legal, then law enforcement won&#39;t be a problem. Which means that citizens who become aware of the 5GW campaign will have to act on their own within the law but outside of government and operate a counter-5GW campaign. Nothing remains secret forever especially in a free society, but legal activities can be done out in the open without attracting attention because they appear to be run-of-the-mill and normal, certainly nothing to be concerned about. Free societies offer the 5th generation warrior the ability to &#8220;hide in plain sight&#8221; and still be able to pull off a victory without the loser being aware of what happened.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan tdaxp </title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan tdaxp </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> &lt;p&gt;Phil,&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; 5GW forces can be harmed in two ways: qualitatively or quantitatively.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; A qualitative action against a 5GW would try to &quot;evaporate&quot; or &quot;materialize&quot; it into another style of organization.  For instance, trying to materialize a 5GW force into a 4GW force would make it much easier to eliminate, because a 4GW force must be about 20x more powerful to win than a 5GW force.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; A quantitative action would just try to scoop members out of the 5GW network.  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Any action -- whether a directed against by a State in response to a finger-tip feeling, or an culture&#039;s autoimmune response to the visible activities of the 5GW organization -- that quantitatively or qualitatively harms the 5GW network reduces its chances of success.  Being recognized as a threat is especially dangerous, because the state would begin quantitatively reducing the network while trying to qualitatively change it at the same time: a double whammy.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; You are corrected that being noticed as such may be harmless.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; (This raises interesting questions as to the identity of 5GW networks)&lt;/p&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil,</p>
<p> 5GW forces can be harmed in two ways: qualitatively or quantitatively.</p>
<p> A qualitative action against a 5GW would try to &#8220;evaporate&#8221; or &#8220;materialize&#8221; it into another style of organization.  For instance, trying to materialize a 5GW force into a 4GW force would make it much easier to eliminate, because a 4GW force must be about 20x more powerful to win than a 5GW force.</p>
<p> A quantitative action would just try to scoop members out of the 5GW network.  </p>
<p> Any action &#8212; whether a directed against by a State in response to a finger-tip feeling, or an culture&#39;s autoimmune response to the visible activities of the 5GW organization &#8212; that quantitatively or qualitatively harms the 5GW network reduces its chances of success.  Being recognized as a threat is especially dangerous, because the state would begin quantitatively reducing the network while trying to qualitatively change it at the same time: a double whammy.</p>
<p> You are corrected that being noticed as such may be harmless.</p>
<p> (This raises interesting questions as to the identity of 5GW networks)</p>
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		<title>By: mark safranski </title>
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		<dc:creator>mark safranski </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> &lt;p&gt;I approve of your Musashiism, Daniel-san&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; There appears to be 5GW attack on Blogger lately as I am being thwarted yet again in my efforts to post&lt;/p&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I approve of your Musashiism, Daniel-san</p>
<p> There appears to be 5GW attack on Blogger lately as I am being thwarted yet again in my efforts to post</p>
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