Joe Biden Wants to Dismember Iraq (Good)

Joe Biden, a man running for President in 2008, has delighted this blogger by endorsing the tdaxp plan for victory in Iraq.

Iraq should be divided into three largely autonomous regions — Kurd, Sunni Arab and Shiite Arab — with a weaker central government in Baghdad, Sen. Joseph Biden said on Monday.

In an op-ed article in The New York Times, Biden, the Senate Foreign Affairs Committee’s top Democrat, said the Bush administration’s effort to establish a strong central government in Baghdad had been a failure, doomed by ethnic rivalry that had spawned widespread sectarian violence.

“It is increasingly clear that President Bush does not have a strategy for victory in Iraq. Rather, he hopes to prevent defeat and pass the problem along to his successor,” said Biden and co-author Leslie Gelb, president emeritus of the Council on Foreign Relations.

Iraq’s Sunnis, the driving force behind the insurgency, would welcome the partition plan rather than be dominated by a Shiite-controlled central government, Biden said.

He said the division of Iraq would follow the example of Bosnia a decade ago when that war-torn country was partitioned into ethnic federations under the U.S.-brokered Dayton Accords.

Biden billed his plan as ,b>a “third option” beyond the “false choice” of continuing the Bush administration policy of nurturing a unity government in Iraq or withdrawing U.S. troops immediately.

As part of the plan, the United States should withdraw most of its troops from Iraq by 2008, except for a small force to combat terrorism, Biden said.

Under Biden’s proposal, the Kurdish, Sunni and Shiite regions would each be responsible for their own domestic laws, administration and internal security. The central government would control border defense, foreign affairs and oil revenues.

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12 thoughts on “Joe Biden Wants to Dismember Iraq (Good)”

  1. Why not go the next step and break it up completely? Do you really think such a weak central government would be viable in the long term? I'll be posting on this soon too btw.

  2. I support a three-state solution initially. It was the best solution.

    I wonder now though if switching gears would be seen as a weakness signal by the US/UK, and would just strengthen the opposition forces' will to last us out.

    If not, it should be considered. Perhaps, strong federalism (tilted toward the Iraqi regions/provinces) would be a first step.

    Maybe the US should consider a Kurdistan Republic created out of Northern Iraq? Turkey and and Iran would need to be “compensated” for the transaction cost they incur as Kurds from those countries move to the new Kurdistan Republic (KR). I hope the US and EU would create immediate free trades agreements with the KR. I think fast track to NATO membership (sponsered by Turkey) would be a good thing. Of course, the KR would need to publically abandon any georpgraphic claims for the Kurdish nation in Turkey or Iran. A KR would weaken Arab-infused Islamofascism, give some relief and face-saving to Turkey, and would puzzle/confuse Iran.

  3. FYI: I am not endorsing Biden. He is kind of a joke, an intellectual lightweight, and a plagurist. I could never vote for him as leader of the free world.

  4. “Of course, the KR would need to publically abandon any georpgraphic claims for the Kurdish nation in Turkey or Iran.”

    This is never going to happen.

    A better solution would be ripping land from Iran (as one step in whatever is about to occur between the U.S. and Iran) and hope that Kurdistan can actually renounce claims on the land in Turkey in exchange for the Iraq-Iran land area (and possibly… Iraq-Iran-Syria area.) If Turkey could sign off on this as well, all would be very well indeed.

    And I agree about the free trade agreement and the NATO inclusion, although I suspect the name of NATO will need to be changed fairly soon….

  5. Curtis…I am ok with your idea. My suggestion was just to confine stuff to Iraq. SOmething is going to happen in (or has started in) US/IRAN. Lots of possible scenarios.

  6. The Arab world, as well as much of the Islamic world is deeply dysfunctional. At least some of this blame can be given to the Europeans. They contrived borders to create instability. They expected to be able to come to the aid of their former subjects as needed — in other words, they expected their SysAdmin to merely become a different kind.

    They succeeded in screwing it up, but failed in their attempt to retain SysAdmin forces. So instead of the unworkable borders tying Arabiyya and Islamiyya closer to Europe, they force those lands away from all civilized worlds.

    Thus, we must not be afraid of changing borders. Weakening the centralizing forces in Iraq is a good first step, and I salute Biden for it. But a longer term solution would ideally include an new Kurdish Republic (probably based in Kirkuk) from Iraqi, Iranian, Syrian, and Turkish Lands, as well as a new Arab Shia Republic (probably based in Basra) from Arabistan, Iran [1] and Eastern Arabia, KSA [2].

    This thread is very healthy, so let me add some thoughts, in order of the comments

    CGW, give me a GOP that legalizes drugs, prostitution, and the annexation of Mexico, and I'm there.
    Purpleslog, what Biden did was nothing compared to the gross, academic plagiarism, on a doctoral thesis, of MLK.

    [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khuzestan
    [2] http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2005/02/15/iran_-_iraq_-_east_arabia.html

  7. Sorry, but I don't know a thing about Biden. I do know that the idea of three separate Iraqi states, while it sounds nice, would never work.

    Giving the Shi'a in the south their own domain would effectively make that area a legal extension of Iran.

    Giving the Sunni their 'triangle' would do little to quell the violence in the Euphrates River valley that is as much about organized crime as it is about fighting for land. Besides, most of the fighting is apparently being done by Sunnis in the “global jihad,” which is intended to eliminate Western influence, not just remove the U.S. from Iraq.

    I thought at first that giving the Kurds their own territory would be a solution, but that wouldn't work, either, because compared to Iran and Turkey, the Kurds would have no means of protecting their borders. The Sunnis, Shi'a wouldn't come to their help, nor would the U.S. risk War in Iran, upsetting Turkey, or upsetting Sunni oil money from Saudi Arabia by supporting the poor Kurds.

    I'm just glad I'm not in Baghdad anymore. I hope they do find a way out of it.

  8. The best solution is to let referendums be conducted in Turkey, Iran, Iraq and Syria, so we can see what 50 million Kurds in the center of Mesopotamia really want. A big portion of these countries’ problems arise from low democratic activity and oppression of their own populations, just look at Turkey, keywords include systematic oppression of Kurds, the universal right to self-determination. Kurds don’t want to be included in other governments’ plans, they just want to be left alone and far away from the likes of Saddam Hussein who brutally killed 200.000 Kurds simply for being Kurds, not to mention the current situation in, respectively, Iran(daily official hangings of political activists, mostly Kurds), Turkey(raided 4000 villages and committed systematic genocide all the way through the 90’s, 2 million killed, 10-? million evacuated and driven from their homes to the east of Turkey, and the situation is only getting A LIIIITLLE bit better) and Syria(millions of Kurds not even registered in the system, meaning they have no rights whatsoever, including health/education/no right of ownership). The biggest irony here is how the so-called “civilized” world can support this “live broadcast” genocide of people who simply wish to call themselves Kurds from Kurdistan. Whatever the outcome of this election, I unfortunetaly only see a negative outcome for Kurds, because Turkey is the biggest recipient of weapons from the US, and Turkey is also one of the biggest opponents of a free Kurdistan.

  9. “Whatever the outcome of this election, I unfortunetaly only see a negative outcome for Kurds, because Turkey is the biggest recipient of weapons from the US, and Turkey is also one of the biggest opponents of a free Kurdistan.”

    Not necessarily. This and other articles suggest that Turkey’s been pumping money into Iraqi Kurdistan to help develop its economy.

    http://www.voanews.com/english/archive/2008-03/2008-03-28-voa69.cfm?CFID=54467903&CFTOKEN=92351433

  10. The world has changed since this post was written, as the Surge worked.

    Biden’s approach was clearly superior to Rumsfeld’s.

    But the Gates-Petraeus-McCain strategy was better yet.

    In a way, we are lucky that this election features two men who were right on Iraq, even though their solutions differed (Biden and McCain). While it’s unfortunate that McCain’s running mate has no foreign policy experience [1], it’s even scarier that Biden’s running mate has none… [2]

    [1] http://cominganarchy.com/2008/10/18/younghusbands-presidential-endorsement/
    [2] http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2008/09/05/waiting-for-presidents-to-die.html

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