Comments on: The End of Empire http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2006/11/07/the-end-of-empire.html High-minded, fanatically malthusian perspectives Tue, 07 Feb 2012 22:09:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: subadei http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2006/11/07/the-end-of-empire.html/comment-page-1#comment-15224 subadei Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2006/11/07/the-end-of-empire.html#comment-15224 <p>What about the Kurds?</p> What about the Kurds?

]]> By: Dan tdaxp http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2006/11/07/the-end-of-empire.html/comment-page-1#comment-15225 Dan tdaxp Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2006/11/07/the-end-of-empire.html#comment-15225 <p>Subadei,<br /> <br /> Like the Iraqi Shia, the Iraqi Kurds are reclaiming their nation after centuries of foreign rule. <br /> <br /> It is an injustice to force the Iraqi Shia to buy-off their former oppressors -- it is wrong to make them split oil revenues with the Sunni Arabs.<br /> <br /> It is an injustice to force the Iraqi Kurds to buy-off their former oppressors -- it is wrong to make them split oil revenues with the Sunni Arabs.</p> Subadei,

Like the Iraqi Shia, the Iraqi Kurds are reclaiming their nation after centuries of foreign rule.

It is an injustice to force the Iraqi Shia to buy-off their former oppressors — it is wrong to make them split oil revenues with the Sunni Arabs.

It is an injustice to force the Iraqi Kurds to buy-off their former oppressors — it is wrong to make them split oil revenues with the Sunni Arabs.

]]> By: Dan tdaxp http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2006/11/07/the-end-of-empire.html/comment-page-1#comment-15227 Dan tdaxp Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2006/11/07/the-end-of-empire.html#comment-15227 <p>Subadei,<br /> <br /> Our policy in 2003 should have been, and our policy today should be, to provide cash, materiel, and air-support to factions we have. Just a fraction of this was enough to establish a de facto independent Kurdistan.<br /> <br /> The locals can win their own wars. We just need to prevent a foreign force from entering the scene.<br /> <br /> And as both the Shia and the Kurds stand themselves up (as they have been doing for 3 years -- an effective "Iraqi" government is a different matter) the threat recedes. The good guys have good relations with Tehran, which is the only state they actually need to worry about.<br /> <br /> Troops may need to be based in the desert for broader geopolitical reasons, but I don't think on-the-ground forces are necessary to let our guys win.</p> Subadei,

Our policy in 2003 should have been, and our policy today should be, to provide cash, materiel, and air-support to factions we have. Just a fraction of this was enough to establish a de facto independent Kurdistan.

The locals can win their own wars. We just need to prevent a foreign force from entering the scene.

And as both the Shia and the Kurds stand themselves up (as they have been doing for 3 years — an effective “Iraqi” government is a different matter) the threat recedes. The good guys have good relations with Tehran, which is the only state they actually need to worry about.

Troops may need to be based in the desert for broader geopolitical reasons, but I don't think on-the-ground forces are necessary to let our guys win.

]]> By: subadei http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2006/11/07/the-end-of-empire.html/comment-page-1#comment-15226 subadei Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2006/11/07/the-end-of-empire.html#comment-15226 <p>Dan,<br /> I agree with the sentiment that both British Imperial map making and a current American occupation are fueling the sectarian fires in Iraq. However, I have to wonder how long the Kurdish state would last after a US pull out. IMO the realization of Kurdistan is the one of very few positive elements realized since the aircraft carrier landing of victory.<br /> I'm inclined to agree that the wisest course of action now is to let the Sunni and Shia battle it out (i.e the Sunni minority head for the hills as you've illustrated) but I'd like to see a troop redeployment to Kurdistan and the fomentation of talks with Turkey regarding the new state.</p> Dan,
I agree with the sentiment that both British Imperial map making and a current American occupation are fueling the sectarian fires in Iraq. However, I have to wonder how long the Kurdish state would last after a US pull out. IMO the realization of Kurdistan is the one of very few positive elements realized since the aircraft carrier landing of victory.
I'm inclined to agree that the wisest course of action now is to let the Sunni and Shia battle it out (i.e the Sunni minority head for the hills as you've illustrated) but I'd like to see a troop redeployment to Kurdistan and the fomentation of talks with Turkey regarding the new state.

]]> By: hasan basri http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2006/11/07/the-end-of-empire.html/comment-page-1#comment-15228 hasan basri Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2006/11/07/the-end-of-empire.html#comment-15228 <p>well iam a sunni arab from the city of basra and let me tell u that sunni iraqis r not a few million of people that can be eliminated by the shia becouse shia makes only 10 % of muslims worlswide and sunni makes about 90% thats mean sunni arabs are taking support from other islamic countrys esp arab countries which are also sunni countries so over than 55 islamic states r found all over the world and help can come from any of these states and they are already doing this all islamic countries are afraid from a shia ruled iraq and they will do every thing possibile to prevent this thing what i want to say is that americans r not the only players in iraq there r many other countries involved</p> well iam a sunni arab from the city of basra and let me tell u that sunni iraqis r not a few million of people that can be eliminated by the shia becouse shia makes only 10 % of muslims worlswide and sunni makes about 90% thats mean sunni arabs are taking support from other islamic countrys esp arab countries which are also sunni countries so over than 55 islamic states r found all over the world and help can come from any of these states and they are already doing this all islamic countries are afraid from a shia ruled iraq and they will do every thing possibile to prevent this thing what i want to say is that americans r not the only players in iraq there r many other countries involved

]]> By: Curtis Gale Weeks http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2006/11/07/the-end-of-empire.html/comment-page-1#comment-15229 Curtis Gale Weeks Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2006/11/07/the-end-of-empire.html#comment-15229 <p>hasan has probably nailed it.</p> hasan has probably nailed it.

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