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	<title>Comments on: Working definition of &quot;Global Guerrillas,&quot; Try 2</title>
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		<title>By: phil jones </title>
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		<dc:creator>phil jones </dc:creator>
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		<description> &lt;p&gt;Sounds close. But depends how much you&#039;re going to hang on &quot;attempt to preserve domestic anarchy &quot;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; What do you mean by &quot;anarchy&quot;? Orderlessness or statelessness? How is it different from what *real* anarchists want?&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; I&#039;d suggest that &quot;global&quot; is less &quot;total&quot; and more in the sense of the word &quot;globalization&quot; : meaning things that tend to transcend national boundaries / escape national containment. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; But that&#039;s really for Robb to say what he meant. Might just be for the alliteration.&lt;/p&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds close. But depends how much you&#39;re going to hang on &#8220;attempt to preserve domestic anarchy &#8220;</p>
<p> What do you mean by &#8220;anarchy&#8221;? Orderlessness or statelessness? How is it different from what *real* anarchists want?</p>
<p> I&#39;d suggest that &#8220;global&#8221; is less &#8220;total&#8221; and more in the sense of the word &#8220;globalization&#8221; : meaning things that tend to transcend national boundaries / escape national containment. </p>
<p> But that&#39;s really for Robb to say what he meant. Might just be for the alliteration.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan tdaxp </title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan tdaxp </dc:creator>
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		<description> &lt;p&gt;&quot;What do you mean by &quot;anarchy&quot;? &quot;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Lack of government.  Lack of central leadership.  Lack of a functioning bureaucracy.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &quot;Orderlessness or statelessness? &quot;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; As &quot;Order&quot; can presumably extended to absurdity (is brownian motion a form of order), then &#039;statelessness.&#039;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &quot;How is it different from what *real* anarchists want?&quot;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Ends and means.  Global guerrillas are defined by their actions while anarchists are defined by their ideals.  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Think of Richard Nixon and Mao Zedong as state-level global guerrillas.  They conspired to prevent Soviet leadership of the world system, not out of some love of leadershipless existence but out of a fear of what Soviet hegemony would mean.  Nixon and Mao were happy enough to use the rhetoric of system-level anarchism (also known as Westphalianism [1]), but if either had been able to impose his own country&#039;s leadership in 1972 instead of issuing the Shanghai Communique, he would have.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &quot;I&#039;d suggest that &quot;global&quot; is less &quot;total&quot; and more in the sense of the word &quot;globalization&quot; : meaning things that tend to transcend national boundaries / escape national containment.&quot;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; So why not &quot;interstate&quot; or &quot;international&quot;?  Or do these words automatically mean the same thing as &quot;global&quot;?&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; [1] &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_of_Westphalia#Traditional_realist_view&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_of_Westphalia#Traditional_realist_view&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What do you mean by &#8220;anarchy&#8221;? &#8220;</p>
<p> Lack of government.  Lack of central leadership.  Lack of a functioning bureaucracy.</p>
<p> &#8220;Orderlessness or statelessness? &#8220;</p>
<p> As &#8220;Order&#8221; can presumably extended to absurdity (is brownian motion a form of order), then &#39;statelessness.&#39;</p>
<p> &#8220;How is it different from what *real* anarchists want?&#8221;</p>
<p> Ends and means.  Global guerrillas are defined by their actions while anarchists are defined by their ideals.  </p>
<p> Think of Richard Nixon and Mao Zedong as state-level global guerrillas.  They conspired to prevent Soviet leadership of the world system, not out of some love of leadershipless existence but out of a fear of what Soviet hegemony would mean.  Nixon and Mao were happy enough to use the rhetoric of system-level anarchism (also known as Westphalianism [1]), but if either had been able to impose his own country&#39;s leadership in 1972 instead of issuing the Shanghai Communique, he would have.</p>
<p> &#8220;I&#39;d suggest that &#8220;global&#8221; is less &#8220;total&#8221; and more in the sense of the word &#8220;globalization&#8221; : meaning things that tend to transcend national boundaries / escape national containment.&#8221;</p>
<p> So why not &#8220;interstate&#8221; or &#8220;international&#8221;?  Or do these words automatically mean the same thing as &#8220;global&#8221;?</p>
<p> [1] <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_of_Westphalia#Traditional_realist_view" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_of_Westphalia#Traditional_realist_view</a></p>
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