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		<title>By: Colonel Hammes Enters the Fifth Generation &#171; Red Herrings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colonel Hammes Enters the Fifth Generation &#171; Red Herrings</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] warfare framework. I often describe it simply as ‘required reading’. When recently browsing Open Thread V of TDAXP I found a link (hat tip: Phil) to the above article in Military Review and followed it [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Lexington Green </title>
		<link>http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/04/18/open-thread-v.html/comment-page-1#comment-16518</link>
		<dc:creator>Lexington Green </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> &lt;p&gt;Are you a devotee of Joris Karl Huysmans?&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; I was and I suppose I always will be.  His book Against the Grain was a milestone on the path back to Catholicism for me.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.axess.se/english/2007/03/tradition_leandoer.php&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.axess.se/english/2007/03/tradition_leandoer.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; This recent essay about Huysmans is good, and compares him to Houllebecq, whom you wrote about recently.&lt;/p&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you a devotee of Joris Karl Huysmans?</p>
<p> I was and I suppose I always will be.  His book Against the Grain was a milestone on the path back to Catholicism for me.</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.axess.se/english/2007/03/tradition_leandoer.php" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.axess.se/english/2007/03/tradition_leandoer.php</a></p>
<p> This recent essay about Huysmans is good, and compares him to Houllebecq, whom you wrote about recently.</p>
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		<title>By: Jayson </title>
		<link>http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/04/18/open-thread-v.html/comment-page-1#comment-16517</link>
		<dc:creator>Jayson </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> &lt;p&gt;Time Magazine of the &quot;important&quot; people of today:&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/time100/0,28757,1595326,00.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/time100/0,28757,1595326,00.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; The People Who Shape Our World&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Here&#039;s our list of the 100 men and women whose power, talent or moral example is transforming the world.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;     * Artists &amp; Entertainers&lt;br /&gt;     * Scientists &amp; Thinkers&lt;br /&gt;     * Leaders &amp; Revolutionaries&lt;br /&gt;     * Builders &amp; Titans&lt;br /&gt;     * Heroes &amp; Pioneers &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Got this by way of Edge.org.&lt;br /&gt; So, what&#039;s your take?&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Here&#039;s another (and smaller) &quot;list&quot; of &quot;important&quot; folks that might be of interest to you:&lt;br /&gt; MAVERICKS&lt;br /&gt; Details anoints the 27 agents of change who are bending the future to their will. Plus: a glimpse into the lifestyles of the brilliant and innovative.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://men.style.com/details/features/landing?id=content_5476&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://men.style.com/details/features/landing?id=content_5476&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time Magazine of the &#8220;important&#8221; people of today:</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/time100/0,28757,1595326,00.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/time100/0,28757,1595326,00.html</a></p>
<p> The People Who Shape Our World</p>
<p> Here&#39;s our list of the 100 men and women whose power, talent or moral example is transforming the world.</p>
<p>     * Artists &amp; Entertainers<br />     * Scientists &amp; Thinkers<br />     * Leaders &amp; Revolutionaries<br />     * Builders &amp; Titans<br />     * Heroes &amp; Pioneers </p>
<p> Got this by way of Edge.org.<br /> So, what&#39;s your take?</p>
<p> Here&#39;s another (and smaller) &#8220;list&#8221; of &#8220;important&#8221; folks that might be of interest to you:<br /> MAVERICKS<br /> Details anoints the 27 agents of change who are bending the future to their will. Plus: a glimpse into the lifestyles of the brilliant and innovative.<br /> <a href="http://men.style.com/details/features/landing?id=content_5476" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://men.style.com/details/features/landing?id=content_5476</a></p>
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		<title>By: PurpleSlog </title>
		<link>http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/04/18/open-thread-v.html/comment-page-1#comment-16519</link>
		<dc:creator>PurpleSlog </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> &lt;p&gt;Lex,&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Is this the book you are referencing: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Against-Nature-Rebours-Penguin-Classics/dp/0140447636/ref=sr_1_1/102-2009190-3713734?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1178759419&amp;sr=1-1&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.amazon.com/Against-Nature-Rebours-Penguin-Classics/dp/0140447636/ref=sr_1_1/102-2009190-3713734?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1178759419&amp;sr=1-1&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lex,</p>
<p> Is this the book you are referencing: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Against-Nature-Rebours-Penguin-Classics/dp/0140447636/ref=sr_1_1/102-2009190-3713734?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1178759419&#038;sr=1-1" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Against-Nature-Rebours-Penguin-Classics/dp/0140447636/ref=sr_1_1/102-2009190-3713734?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1178759419&#038;sr=1-1</a></p>
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		<title>By: PurpleSlog </title>
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		<dc:creator>PurpleSlog </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> &lt;p&gt;Wait...I think this is it:&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Against-Grain-Joris-Karl-Huysmans/dp/1406505714/ref=sr_1_3/102-2009190-3713734?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1178759568&amp;sr=1-3&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.amazon.com/Against-Grain-Joris-Karl-Huysmans/dp/1406505714/ref=sr_1_3/102-2009190-3713734?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1178759568&amp;sr=1-3&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait&#8230;I think this is it:</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Against-Grain-Joris-Karl-Huysmans/dp/1406505714/ref=sr_1_3/102-2009190-3713734?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1178759568&#038;sr=1-3" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Against-Grain-Joris-Karl-Huysmans/dp/1406505714/ref=sr_1_3/102-2009190-3713734?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1178759568&#038;sr=1-3</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jayson </title>
		<link>http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/04/18/open-thread-v.html/comment-page-1#comment-16515</link>
		<dc:creator>Jayson </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> &lt;p&gt;Submitted for anyone&#039;s consideration-- Some Sort of &quot;Poetry&quot; Page:&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.transmittingonline.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.transmittingonline.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Make of it what one will. (I&#039;m still trying to make-up my mind on it...)&lt;/p&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Submitted for anyone&#39;s consideration&#8211; Some Sort of &#8220;Poetry&#8221; Page:</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.transmittingonline.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.transmittingonline.com/</a></p>
<p> Make of it what one will. (I&#39;m still trying to make-up my mind on it&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Jayson </title>
		<link>http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/04/18/open-thread-v.html/comment-page-1#comment-16516</link>
		<dc:creator>Jayson </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> &lt;p&gt;&quot;Islamic Banking: Is It Really Kosher?&quot;&lt;br /&gt; By Aaron MacLean, in the March/April 2007 issue of The American&lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.american.com/archive/2007/march-april-magazine-contents/islamic-banking-is-it-really-kosher/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.american.com/archive/2007/march-april-magazine-contents/islamic-banking-is-it-really-kosher/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Somewhat related, a 4/13/07 post to Smartmobs.com:&lt;br /&gt; &quot;Malaysia fatwa against Internet trading&quot;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.smartmobs.com/archive/2007/04/13/malaysia_fatwa_....htm&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.smartmobs.com/archive/2007/04/13/malaysia_fatwa_....htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Islamic Banking: Is It Really Kosher?&#8221;<br /> By Aaron MacLean, in the March/April 2007 issue of The American<br /> <a href="http://www.american.com/archive/2007/march-april-magazine-contents/islamic-banking-is-it-really-kosher/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.american.com/archive/2007/march-april-magazine-contents/islamic-banking-is-it-really-kosher/</a></p>
<p> Somewhat related, a 4/13/07 post to Smartmobs.com:<br /> &#8220;Malaysia fatwa against Internet trading&#8221;<br /> <a href="http://www.smartmobs.com/archive/2007/04/13/malaysia_fatwa_....htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.smartmobs.com/archive/2007/04/13/malaysia_fatwa_&#8230;.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Arherring </title>
		<link>http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/04/18/open-thread-v.html/comment-page-1#comment-16513</link>
		<dc:creator>Arherring </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> &lt;p&gt;Good catch Phil!&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; I comment in detail on D5GW but for the most part I feel encouraged by Hammes&#039; venture into 5GW territory.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fifthgeneration.phaticcommunion.com/archives/2007/05/colonel_hammes_enters_the_fift.php#more&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.fifthgeneration.phaticcommunion.com/archives/2007/05/colonel_hammes_enters_the_fift.php#more&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good catch Phil!</p>
<p> I comment in detail on D5GW but for the most part I feel encouraged by Hammes&#39; venture into 5GW territory.</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.fifthgeneration.phaticcommunion.com/archives/2007/05/colonel_hammes_enters_the_fift.php#more" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.fifthgeneration.phaticcommunion.com/archives/2007/05/colonel_hammes_enters_the_fift.php#more</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jayson </title>
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		<dc:creator>Jayson </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> &lt;p&gt;Well, this is interesting--a so-called &quot;fruit-punch tree&quot;; seems like something I&#039;d love to have in my backyard--&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; The Fruit-Punch Tree&lt;br /&gt; By Jenn Ross, from the November 2004 issue of The Walrus Magazine&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://301url.com/Fruit-Punch_Tree&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://301url.com/Fruit-Punch_Tree&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; EXCERPT:&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Luis Carrasco&#039;s invention is, at first, hard to make out among the shrubs, trees, and rose bushes in his large backyard in an upscale neigh-bourhood at the foothills of the towering Andes mountains. At first glance, it appears to be a common-enough plum tree, if a little oddly shaped. A closer look, however, reveals that not all of its leaves and branches are quite the same — some have broad heart-shaped leaves, others have thinner dark-green foliage. From November until March, when the other fruit trees in the backyard are bearing mandarin oranges, peaches, or apricots, this six-foot-six stalwart grows peaches, nectarines, apricots, cherries, and plums — all at once.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; The tree is the product of four years of painstaking labour. [...]&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; The idea for such a tree first came to him when he was in university, studying agronomy. But he didn&#039;t begin the project in earnest until 2000, when he mentioned his frustrated dream to his daughters, who were fascinated but immediately thought it impossible. Their skepticism spurred him to action.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; He says he was troubled by the sense of grim resignation, a premature realism, in his daughters, then aged sixteen, fourteen, and seven. At an age when kids should believe in magic and in their own ability to change the world, they, like many young Chileans, instead exuded pessimism and a lack of faith. Determined to inspire them, he revived the idea to create a marvel of nature in his own backyard.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &quot;They said it couldn&#039;t be done because if it was possible, someone would have done it already,&quot; says a thin, bespectacled Carrasco, with a defiant grin. &quot;I wanted my daughters to see what they can achieve if they strive for the impossible. And the idea of this tree seemed to have a magical component.&quot;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Indeed, it does. Not only does the tree yield five different fruits (which each smell and taste as peaches or apricots or cherries should), it produces multiple varieties of the same fruit (such as white-fleshed and yellow-fleshed peaches).&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; No genes were manipulated in the production of this tree. Carrasco achieved his feat the old-fashioned way, through the time-honoured tradition of grafting.[...]&lt;/p&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, this is interesting&#8211;a so-called &#8220;fruit-punch tree&#8221;; seems like something I&#39;d love to have in my backyard&#8211;</p>
<p> The Fruit-Punch Tree<br /> By Jenn Ross, from the November 2004 issue of The Walrus Magazine</p>
<p> <a href="http://301url.com/Fruit-Punch_Tree" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://301url.com/Fruit-Punch_Tree</a></p>
<p> EXCERPT:</p>
<p> Luis Carrasco&#39;s invention is, at first, hard to make out among the shrubs, trees, and rose bushes in his large backyard in an upscale neigh-bourhood at the foothills of the towering Andes mountains. At first glance, it appears to be a common-enough plum tree, if a little oddly shaped. A closer look, however, reveals that not all of its leaves and branches are quite the same — some have broad heart-shaped leaves, others have thinner dark-green foliage. From November until March, when the other fruit trees in the backyard are bearing mandarin oranges, peaches, or apricots, this six-foot-six stalwart grows peaches, nectarines, apricots, cherries, and plums — all at once.</p>
<p> The tree is the product of four years of painstaking labour. [...]</p>
<p> The idea for such a tree first came to him when he was in university, studying agronomy. But he didn&#39;t begin the project in earnest until 2000, when he mentioned his frustrated dream to his daughters, who were fascinated but immediately thought it impossible. Their skepticism spurred him to action.</p>
<p> He says he was troubled by the sense of grim resignation, a premature realism, in his daughters, then aged sixteen, fourteen, and seven. At an age when kids should believe in magic and in their own ability to change the world, they, like many young Chileans, instead exuded pessimism and a lack of faith. Determined to inspire them, he revived the idea to create a marvel of nature in his own backyard.</p>
<p> &#8220;They said it couldn&#39;t be done because if it was possible, someone would have done it already,&#8221; says a thin, bespectacled Carrasco, with a defiant grin. &#8220;I wanted my daughters to see what they can achieve if they strive for the impossible. And the idea of this tree seemed to have a magical component.&#8221;</p>
<p> Indeed, it does. Not only does the tree yield five different fruits (which each smell and taste as peaches or apricots or cherries should), it produces multiple varieties of the same fruit (such as white-fleshed and yellow-fleshed peaches).</p>
<p> No genes were manipulated in the production of this tree. Carrasco achieved his feat the old-fashioned way, through the time-honoured tradition of grafting.[...]</p>
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		<title>By:  phil </title>
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		<description> &lt;p&gt;Hammes has a new article in the current issue of Military Review that&#039;s pretty good:&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &quot;Fourth Generation Warfare Evolves, Fifth Emerges&quot;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://usacac.army.mil/CAC/milreview/English/MayJun07/Hammes.pdf&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://usacac.army.mil/CAC/milreview/English/MayJun07/Hammes.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; A discussion thread on the article is being spun over at the Small Wars Journal:&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://council.smallwarsjournal.com/showthread.php?t=2775&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://council.smallwarsjournal.com/showthread.php?t=2775&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hammes has a new article in the current issue of Military Review that&#39;s pretty good:</p>
<p> &#8220;Fourth Generation Warfare Evolves, Fifth Emerges&#8221;</p>
<p> <a href="http://usacac.army.mil/CAC/milreview/English/MayJun07/Hammes.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://usacac.army.mil/CAC/milreview/English/MayJun07/Hammes.pdf</a></p>
<p> A discussion thread on the article is being spun over at the Small Wars Journal:</p>
<p> <a href="http://council.smallwarsjournal.com/showthread.php?t=2775" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://council.smallwarsjournal.com/showthread.php?t=2775</a></p>
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