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		<title>By: tdaxp</title>
		<link>http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/07/05/the-importance-of-5gw.html/comment-page-1#comment-428036</link>
		<dc:creator>tdaxp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 12:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is definitely both a moderate center and a radical center, and 5GW as an anti-COIN tool can be used by the moderate center against the radical center quite effectively.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is definitely both a moderate center and a radical center, and 5GW as an anti-COIN tool can be used by the moderate center against the radical center quite effectively.</p>
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		<title>By: Eddie</title>
		<link>http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/07/05/the-importance-of-5gw.html/comment-page-1#comment-401192</link>
		<dc:creator>Eddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I agree w/ Dr. Dan&#039;s assertion that a few leftists will adopt the mantras of AQ and related groups (though honestly the animal rights/eco terrorist ideologues worry me much much more, and I can personally attest to their activities and anti-human belief promotions on campuses in the Triad area), I think certain elements of the Right in this country are doing far more for AQ&#039;s cause than some idiot college kid ever could. 

I am thinking here of the recent growth of anti-Muslim attitudes expressed by politicians and local leaders in response to Americans of the Islamic faith seeking to build a new mosque or community center, whether it be in Tennessee, California, or two blocks from Ground Zero in a multi-faith neighborhood that openly and proudly supports the presence of Americans of Muslim faith in their midst. 

Not a shred of evidence exists to back up the assertions of these opponents of religious freedom who tar all Muslims with the stink of terrorism. Our police and intelligence services worry about this spreading attitude because it makes their jobs much more difficult and also risks embittering citizens previously free to pursue like every other American life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness who just happen to be Muslim. 

As leftists sow social discord and problems with their race preference agenda, so too now are certain elements of the Right who seem to seek to promote AQ&#039;s propaganda about the USA by making it truth instead of fiction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree w/ Dr. Dan&#8217;s assertion that a few leftists will adopt the mantras of AQ and related groups (though honestly the animal rights/eco terrorist ideologues worry me much much more, and I can personally attest to their activities and anti-human belief promotions on campuses in the Triad area), I think certain elements of the Right in this country are doing far more for AQ&#8217;s cause than some idiot college kid ever could. </p>
<p>I am thinking here of the recent growth of anti-Muslim attitudes expressed by politicians and local leaders in response to Americans of the Islamic faith seeking to build a new mosque or community center, whether it be in Tennessee, California, or two blocks from Ground Zero in a multi-faith neighborhood that openly and proudly supports the presence of Americans of Muslim faith in their midst. </p>
<p>Not a shred of evidence exists to back up the assertions of these opponents of religious freedom who tar all Muslims with the stink of terrorism. Our police and intelligence services worry about this spreading attitude because it makes their jobs much more difficult and also risks embittering citizens previously free to pursue like every other American life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness who just happen to be Muslim. </p>
<p>As leftists sow social discord and problems with their race preference agenda, so too now are certain elements of the Right who seem to seek to promote AQ&#8217;s propaganda about the USA by making it truth instead of fiction.</p>
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		<title>By: Purpleslog</title>
		<link>http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/07/05/the-importance-of-5gw.html/comment-page-1#comment-401172</link>
		<dc:creator>Purpleslog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 14:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More on Adrian&#039;s &quot;the notion that it would ever be fashionable to support al-Qaeda related movements on college campuses is laughable...&quot; from blog The Volokh Conspiracy [1]:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
In the past fifty years, adolescents have joined a host of marginalized groups their parents found dangerous – juvenile delinquents, mods and rockers, punks, skinheads, and Goths.  So why not jihadis?  Islamist terror certainly scares authority figures; why wouldn’t Western adolescents and misfits be attracted to violent Islamism — at least as a symbolic stance?
[...]
Most of us think that Islamic terror is just too serious to be trivialized into a pose for disaffected Western youth.  But we may have underrated the effects of a decade of political correctness and anti-Americanism in popular culture, where the search for transgressive shock value never ends.

Take M.I.A.’s new album.  It lacks much of the raw energy and boogey rhythm that enlivened her first two albums, so transgression is pretty much all she has to fall back on.   And transgress she does.  One cut, “Illygirl,” manages to rhyme (and identify the singer with) three cultural lodestars –  her “tight jeans,” “Bruce Springsteen,” and the &lt;b&gt;“muhahedin&quot;&lt;/b&gt;. For M.I.A., in other words, Islamic terrorism is already a kind of life-style fashion item, a marginalized-and-proud, third-world stance that can be easily worn to parties in Brentwood by a wealthy former British art student.  And if it works for M.I.A., why shouldn’t it work for an immigrant kid in New Jersey?
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The articel goes on to suggest a way to counter this.

[1]
http://volokh.com/2010/07/24/will-jihad-jump-the-shark/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More on Adrian&#8217;s &#8220;the notion that it would ever be fashionable to support al-Qaeda related movements on college campuses is laughable&#8230;&#8221; from blog The Volokh Conspiracy [1]:</p>
<blockquote><p>
In the past fifty years, adolescents have joined a host of marginalized groups their parents found dangerous – juvenile delinquents, mods and rockers, punks, skinheads, and Goths.  So why not jihadis?  Islamist terror certainly scares authority figures; why wouldn’t Western adolescents and misfits be attracted to violent Islamism — at least as a symbolic stance?<br />
[...]<br />
Most of us think that Islamic terror is just too serious to be trivialized into a pose for disaffected Western youth.  But we may have underrated the effects of a decade of political correctness and anti-Americanism in popular culture, where the search for transgressive shock value never ends.</p>
<p>Take M.I.A.’s new album.  It lacks much of the raw energy and boogey rhythm that enlivened her first two albums, so transgression is pretty much all she has to fall back on.   And transgress she does.  One cut, “Illygirl,” manages to rhyme (and identify the singer with) three cultural lodestars –  her “tight jeans,” “Bruce Springsteen,” and the <b>“muhahedin&#8221;</b>. For M.I.A., in other words, Islamic terrorism is already a kind of life-style fashion item, a marginalized-and-proud, third-world stance that can be easily worn to parties in Brentwood by a wealthy former British art student.  And if it works for M.I.A., why shouldn’t it work for an immigrant kid in New Jersey?
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<p>The articel goes on to suggest a way to counter this.</p>
<p>[1]<br />
<a href="http://volokh.com/2010/07/24/will-jihad-jump-the-shark/" rel="nofollow">http://volokh.com/2010/07/24/will-jihad-jump-the-shark/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Draft - Shadows of 5GW: The Default American PoV has become a Leftist POV &#171; PurpleSlog</title>
		<link>http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/07/05/the-importance-of-5gw.html/comment-page-1#comment-220213</link>
		<dc:creator>Draft - Shadows of 5GW: The Default American PoV has become a Leftist POV &#171; PurpleSlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and interlocking treaties.&#160; The Military-Industrial was profit seeking agent to keep it going. TDAXP first pointed out this 5GW and tried to articulate on the radio interview. This&#160; 5GW took the path of Frog [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and interlocking treaties.&nbsp; The Military-Industrial was profit seeking agent to keep it going. TDAXP first pointed out this 5GW and tried to articulate on the radio interview. This&nbsp; 5GW took the path of Frog [...]</p>
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		<title>By: tdaxp &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Coming Popularity of al Qaeda</title>
		<link>http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/07/05/the-importance-of-5gw.html/comment-page-1#comment-135548</link>
		<dc:creator>tdaxp &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Coming Popularity of al Qaeda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 00:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] have argued before that because of the Left&#8217;s fascination with &#8220;other voices,&#8221; al Qaeda will become a hip movement on college campuses (in the sense that Che is now or the Viet Cong once was) . This will happen in a generation after [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] have argued before that because of the Left&#8217;s fascination with &#8220;other voices,&#8221; al Qaeda will become a hip movement on college campuses (in the sense that Che is now or the Viet Cong once was) . This will happen in a generation after [...]</p>
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		<title>By: tdaxp &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Building the Sysadmin-Industrial-Complex</title>
		<link>http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/07/05/the-importance-of-5gw.html/comment-page-1#comment-114841</link>
		<dc:creator>tdaxp &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Building the Sysadmin-Industrial-Complex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 14:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] post from Tom on Enterra&#8217;s work. Tom&#8217;s echoing what I wrote about in describing the need for 5GW &#8212; we cannot expect a conscious grand strategy to take us where we need to go. We need to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] post from Tom on Enterra&#8217;s work. Tom&#8217;s echoing what I wrote about in describing the need for 5GW &#8212; we cannot expect a conscious grand strategy to take us where we need to go. We need to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m surprised I missed this post so long ago....

A brief overview of Iranian history would point to the attraction of the movements to college students.  And as I&#039;ve written many times, Al-Qaeda style terrorism is exactly the sort of thing that alienated young males love.

I think that tracking Al-Qaedist sympathies in colleges is something I&#039;m going to have to do some more research on.  Certainly bin Laden&#039;s quotations of Chomsky have met with approval.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised I missed this post so long ago&#8230;.</p>
<p>A brief overview of Iranian history would point to the attraction of the movements to college students.  And as I&#8217;ve written many times, Al-Qaeda style terrorism is exactly the sort of thing that alienated young males love.</p>
<p>I think that tracking Al-Qaedist sympathies in colleges is something I&#8217;m going to have to do some more research on.  Certainly bin Laden&#8217;s quotations of Chomsky have met with approval.</p>
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		<title>By: tdaxp &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 5GWish Links</title>
		<link>http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/07/05/the-importance-of-5gw.html/comment-page-1#comment-71085</link>
		<dc:creator>tdaxp &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 5GWish Links</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 16:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Cold War (the 5GW against Communism, which kept going long after public and elite support collapsed) was the topic of Purpleslog&#8217;s interview on Covert Radio (his reflections on the interiew are [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Cold War (the 5GW against Communism, which kept going long after public and elite support collapsed) was the topic of Purpleslog&#8217;s interview on Covert Radio (his reflections on the interiew are [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian </title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> &lt;p&gt;&quot;If history repeats itself, or at least rhymes, within a generation of 9/11 active support of al Qaeda inspired movements should be fashionable on college campuses.&quot;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; I wasn&#039;t alive during the Vietnam War and haven&#039;t read all that much on it, so I can&#039;t comment on that aspect.  But the notion that it would ever be fashionable to support al-Qaeda related movements on college campuses is laughable.  You&#039;re off your rocker - perhaps your disgust of the &quot;Left&quot; is blinding you to some fundamental realities.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; What do college-age kids like?  SEX.  What does al-Qaeda fear?  SEX.  Ditto for drugs.  And not very many people become MORE religious as they attend college.  I&#039;d believe that you meant this comment sarcastically, but you made it its own paragraph so I guess you really meant it...?&lt;/p&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If history repeats itself, or at least rhymes, within a generation of 9/11 active support of al Qaeda inspired movements should be fashionable on college campuses.&#8221;</p>
<p> I wasn&#39;t alive during the Vietnam War and haven&#39;t read all that much on it, so I can&#39;t comment on that aspect.  But the notion that it would ever be fashionable to support al-Qaeda related movements on college campuses is laughable.  You&#39;re off your rocker &#8211; perhaps your disgust of the &#8220;Left&#8221; is blinding you to some fundamental realities.</p>
<p> What do college-age kids like?  SEX.  What does al-Qaeda fear?  SEX.  Ditto for drugs.  And not very many people become MORE religious as they attend college.  I&#39;d believe that you meant this comment sarcastically, but you made it its own paragraph so I guess you really meant it&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan tdaxp </title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan tdaxp </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> &lt;p&gt;&quot;the notion that it would ever be fashionable to support al-Qaeda related movements on college campuses is laughable. You&#039;re off your rocker - perhaps your disgust of the &quot;Left&quot; is blinding you to some fundamental realities.&quot;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; What do college-age kids like? SEX. What does al-Qaeda fear? SEX. Ditto for drugs. &quot;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Yet Communist tyrants, from Ceausescu to Mao, instituted sexually conservative regimes and harshly prosecuted drug offenders.  This did not stop Communism from being fashionable enough on college campuses to imperial the physical security of ROTCs, etc.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &quot;And not very many people become MORE religious as they attend college. &quot;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; It&#039;s cliche to say that college is when many young people, with a sudden increase in freedom with very little increased responsibility, start looking beyond themselves...  All sorts of utopian and millennial activism happens in colleges (GreenPeace, Amnesty International, etc.).  In the absence of a grand strategic program to rebel against, student troublemaking is relatively harmless.  When given a noble goal to spit upon, however, colleges have proven to be very dangerous.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; (There is a reason that most state universities were placed in small towns..)&lt;/p&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the notion that it would ever be fashionable to support al-Qaeda related movements on college campuses is laughable. You&#39;re off your rocker &#8211; perhaps your disgust of the &#8220;Left&#8221; is blinding you to some fundamental realities.&#8221;</p>
<p> What do college-age kids like? SEX. What does al-Qaeda fear? SEX. Ditto for drugs. &#8220;</p>
<p> Yet Communist tyrants, from Ceausescu to Mao, instituted sexually conservative regimes and harshly prosecuted drug offenders.  This did not stop Communism from being fashionable enough on college campuses to imperial the physical security of ROTCs, etc.</p>
<p> &#8220;And not very many people become MORE religious as they attend college. &#8220;</p>
<p> It&#39;s cliche to say that college is when many young people, with a sudden increase in freedom with very little increased responsibility, start looking beyond themselves&#8230;  All sorts of utopian and millennial activism happens in colleges (GreenPeace, Amnesty International, etc.).  In the absence of a grand strategic program to rebel against, student troublemaking is relatively harmless.  When given a noble goal to spit upon, however, colleges have proven to be very dangerous.</p>
<p> (There is a reason that most state universities were placed in small towns..)</p>
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