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	<title>Comments on: Steve DeAngelis on the Sysadmin-Industrial-Complex</title>
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	<description>All of us against the machine</description>
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		<title>By: tdaxp &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Warrior Housing is Part of the SysAdmin-Industrial-Complex</title>
		<link>http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/07/25/steve-deangelis-on-the-sysadmin-industrial-complex.html/comment-page-1#comment-64888</link>
		<dc:creator>tdaxp &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Warrior Housing is Part of the SysAdmin-Industrial-Complex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it&#8217;s time to build up a &#8220;SysAdmin-Industrial-Complex&#8221; to see us through to victory in Iraq, Afghanistan, and the other wars in the third-world [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] it&#8217;s time to build up a &#8220;SysAdmin-Industrial-Complex&#8221; to see us through to victory in Iraq, Afghanistan, and the other wars in the third-world [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Steve French </title>
		<link>http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/07/25/steve-deangelis-on-the-sysadmin-industrial-complex.html/comment-page-1#comment-17515</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve French </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> &lt;p&gt;They&#039;re apples and oranges (to answer your question I would have, and do, oppose social security).&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; It&#039;s not a matter of the government crowding out the private market, it&#039;s a matter of pointless corporate welfare.  The firm has already made it&#039;s commitment to the contractor.  The government is just taking over the commitment.&lt;/p&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#39;re apples and oranges (to answer your question I would have, and do, oppose social security).</p>
<p> It&#39;s not a matter of the government crowding out the private market, it&#39;s a matter of pointless corporate welfare.  The firm has already made it&#39;s commitment to the contractor.  The government is just taking over the commitment.</p>
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		<title>By:  sonofsamphm1c </title>
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		<dc:creator> sonofsamphm1c </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> &lt;p&gt;I think one fallacy is the belief that the costs can be avoided by not having a system to address them.  In part, maybe they can, but you do not see bodies piling up outside hospital emergency rooms.  We simply are not quite that cruel, so the fantasy of avoiding paying for disease or injury is impossible.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; It all comes out of our national hide in some way.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; In many cases, the costs just shift to another system, including charity, which is, of course, no more free than any other system for addressing costs.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; In terms of insurance paid for by an employer, I do not think there is an equivalent to the VA, which is a basic model for what is required to cover the injuries of soldiers, which can be incredibly expensive.  So I somewhat doubt the employers of these people can buy a health insurance policy that truly covers the common hazards of a combat theater.&lt;/p&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think one fallacy is the belief that the costs can be avoided by not having a system to address them.  In part, maybe they can, but you do not see bodies piling up outside hospital emergency rooms.  We simply are not quite that cruel, so the fantasy of avoiding paying for disease or injury is impossible.</p>
<p> It all comes out of our national hide in some way.</p>
<p> In many cases, the costs just shift to another system, including charity, which is, of course, no more free than any other system for addressing costs.</p>
<p> In terms of insurance paid for by an employer, I do not think there is an equivalent to the VA, which is a basic model for what is required to cover the injuries of soldiers, which can be incredibly expensive.  So I somewhat doubt the employers of these people can buy a health insurance policy that truly covers the common hazards of a combat theater.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve French </title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve French </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> &lt;p&gt;I was refering to the taxpayer assuming the obligations of private firms.  I haven&#039;t read the Outside the Beltway piece.&lt;/p&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was refering to the taxpayer assuming the obligations of private firms.  I haven&#39;t read the Outside the Beltway piece.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan tdaxp </title>
		<link>http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/07/25/steve-deangelis-on-the-sysadmin-industrial-complex.html/comment-page-1#comment-17514</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan tdaxp </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> &lt;p&gt;Steve,&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Do you oppose social security as well, as pensions are traditionally the province of work contractors?  (Or, more specifically, would you have opposed it at the time if this would amount to &quot;the taxpayer assuming the obligations of private firms&quot;?)&lt;/p&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p> Do you oppose social security as well, as pensions are traditionally the province of work contractors?  (Or, more specifically, would you have opposed it at the time if this would amount to &#8220;the taxpayer assuming the obligations of private firms&#8221;?)</p>
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		<title>By: Steve French </title>
		<link>http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/07/25/steve-deangelis-on-the-sysadmin-industrial-complex.html/comment-page-1#comment-17511</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve French </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> &lt;p&gt;Oh come on, that&#039;s just silly.  The question is not whether or not veterans or contractors should receive health care, but whether or not the taxpayers should assume the debts and responsibilities of private firms.&lt;/p&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh come on, that&#39;s just silly.  The question is not whether or not veterans or contractors should receive health care, but whether or not the taxpayers should assume the debts and responsibilities of private firms.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan tdaxp </title>
		<link>http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/07/25/steve-deangelis-on-the-sysadmin-industrial-complex.html/comment-page-1#comment-17512</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan tdaxp </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> &lt;p&gt;Steve,  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; The paragraph in Outside the Beltway&#039;s post, immediately below the Broder piece, reads as follows:&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &quot;I’m not so sure. People who undertake risky work are owed what they were promised when they signed on. It’s unclear why they should get “a hell of a lot more.”&quot;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Or were you calling OTB &quot;just silly&quot;?&lt;/p&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,  </p>
<p> The paragraph in Outside the Beltway&#39;s post, immediately below the Broder piece, reads as follows:</p>
<p> &#8220;I’m not so sure. People who undertake risky work are owed what they were promised when they signed on. It’s unclear why they should get “a hell of a lot more.”&#8221;</p>
<p> Or were you calling OTB &#8220;just silly&#8221;?</p>
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