Comments on: Kinds of 5GW http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/08/01/kinds-of-5gw.html All of us against the machine Mon, 15 Mar 2010 01:17:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: 5GW Operation Notes: Who What Where When Why How « PurpleSlog – Awesomeness & Modesty Meets Sexy http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/08/01/kinds-of-5gw.html/comment-page-1#comment-293755 5GW Operation Notes: Who What Where When Why How « PurpleSlog – Awesomeness & Modesty Meets Sexy Sun, 26 Jul 2009 04:42:31 +0000 http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/08/01/kinds-of-5gw.html#comment-293755 [...] 5GW Insurgents [...] [...] 5GW Insurgents [...]

]]> By: Draft - Shadows of 5GW: The Default American PoV has become a Leftist POV « PurpleSlog http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/08/01/kinds-of-5gw.html/comment-page-1#comment-220214 Draft - Shadows of 5GW: The Default American PoV has become a Leftist POV « PurpleSlog Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:34:15 +0000 http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/08/01/kinds-of-5gw.html#comment-220214 [...] The American 5GW effort was created at the dawn of the cold war by a bunch of officials inside and outside of USGOV that put the US response to the Cold War on auto-pilot. The policy was containment. The framework was the layers of institutions and interlocking treaties.  The Military-Industrial was profit seeking agent to keep it going. TDAXP first pointed out this 5GW and tried to articulate on the radio interview. This  5GW took the path of Frog Boiling, and used somewhat partially the Puppet Master style and partially the Socio-Political Entrepreneur style. TDAXP would call this the State-without kind of 5GW. [...] [...] The American 5GW effort was created at the dawn of the cold war by a bunch of officials inside and outside of USGOV that put the US response to the Cold War on auto-pilot. The policy was containment. The framework was the layers of institutions and interlocking treaties.  The Military-Industrial was profit seeking agent to keep it going. TDAXP first pointed out this 5GW and tried to articulate on the radio interview. This  5GW took the path of Frog Boiling, and used somewhat partially the Puppet Master style and partially the Socio-Political Entrepreneur style. TDAXP would call this the State-without kind of 5GW. [...]

]]> By: Mutually Exclusive Paths to Fifth Generation Warfare (5GW) Success « PurpleSlog http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/08/01/kinds-of-5gw.html/comment-page-1#comment-139429 Mutually Exclusive Paths to Fifth Generation Warfare (5GW) Success « PurpleSlog Wed, 24 Sep 2008 03:45:28 +0000 http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/08/01/kinds-of-5gw.html#comment-139429 [...] TDAXP’s Kinds of 5GW: - The insurgent 5GW (the classical formulation)- The state-within 5GW (where a clique inside the [...] [...] TDAXP’s Kinds of 5GW: – The insurgent 5GW (the classical formulation)- The state-within 5GW (where a clique inside the [...]

]]> By: Dan tdaxp http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/08/01/kinds-of-5gw.html/comment-page-1#comment-17566 Dan tdaxp Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/08/01/kinds-of-5gw.html#comment-17566 <p>"Something tells me that for orthogonality there should be a counterinsurgent 5GW, but I'm having trouble imagining what that looks like."<br /> <br /> Would that be an example of a state-within 5GW, as it's goal is to transform its host society to build either an autoimmunity, or else to takedown specific elements that it dislikes?<br /> <br /> Curtis is thinking along the same lines [1]...<br /> <br /> [1] <a href="http://www.fifthgeneration.phaticcommunion.com/archives/2007/07/defending_against_5gw.php" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.fifthgeneration.phaticcommunion.com/archives/2007/07/defending_against_5gw.php</a></p> “Something tells me that for orthogonality there should be a counterinsurgent 5GW, but I'm having trouble imagining what that looks like.”

Would that be an example of a state-within 5GW, as it's goal is to transform its host society to build either an autoimmunity, or else to takedown specific elements that it dislikes?

Curtis is thinking along the same lines [1]…

[1] http://www.fifthgeneration.phaticcommunion.com/archives/2007/07/defending_against_5gw.php

]]> By: Mike http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/08/01/kinds-of-5gw.html/comment-page-1#comment-17565 Mike Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/08/01/kinds-of-5gw.html#comment-17565 <p>Dan,<br /> <br /> Ii like your list. I think the descriptions (especially with the links) are accurate. Something tells me that for orthogonality there should be a counterinsurgent 5GW, but I'm having trouble imagining what that looks like.<br /> <br /> Mike</p> Dan,

Ii like your list. I think the descriptions (especially with the links) are accurate. Something tells me that for orthogonality there should be a counterinsurgent 5GW, but I'm having trouble imagining what that looks like.

Mike

]]> By: Steve Pampinella http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/08/01/kinds-of-5gw.html/comment-page-1#comment-17567 Steve Pampinella Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/08/01/kinds-of-5gw.html#comment-17567 <p>Good list also. I think counterinsurgent 5GW may attack a 'state-without', encouraging the external social network to ally with 5GWarriors and whatever 'broader' or 'global' social network they represent, thus leading to a entire new 'state-beyond', to steal a term from Dan's post on the 18th of July(I think?). Counterinsurgent in this sense may be a subclassification of broader activities such as nation building. Obviously there are Barnettian overtones here, and I believe Curtis has also mentioned this in a previous post.</p> Good list also. I think counterinsurgent 5GW may attack a 'state-without', encouraging the external social network to ally with 5GWarriors and whatever 'broader' or 'global' social network they represent, thus leading to a entire new 'state-beyond', to steal a term from Dan's post on the 18th of July(I think?). Counterinsurgent in this sense may be a subclassification of broader activities such as nation building. Obviously there are Barnettian overtones here, and I believe Curtis has also mentioned this in a previous post.

]]> By: Mike http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/08/01/kinds-of-5gw.html/comment-page-1#comment-17568 Mike Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/08/01/kinds-of-5gw.html#comment-17568 <p>Hi Dan,<br /> <br /> You nailed it, as did Curtis. The operative word you used is "autoimmunity"; that's what I was reaching for. <br /> <br /> As always, I bow to your superior intellect! ;-)<br /> <br /> Mike</p> Hi Dan,

You nailed it, as did Curtis. The operative word you used is “autoimmunity”; that's what I was reaching for.

As always, I bow to your superior intellect! ;-)

Mike

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