Comments on: Taking down Iran in two easy steps http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/09/01/taking-down-iran-in-two-easy-steps.html All of us against the machine Sat, 20 Mar 2010 03:18:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: tdaxp http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/09/01/taking-down-iran-in-two-easy-steps.html/comment-page-1#comment-283636 tdaxp Tue, 16 Jun 2009 06:55:23 +0000 http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/09/01/taking-down-iran-in-two-easy-steps.html#comment-283636 Thanks for the comments! Andrew, Good catch! Yashar & Varg, Thank you for contributing! As recent events show [1,2], the government of Iran does not always have the best interest of its citizens in mind. Let us pray to God that this will change soon! [1] http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2009/06/14/iran-unrest-on-twitter.html [2] http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2009/06/15/before-the-deaths.html Thanks for the comments!

Andrew,

Good catch!

Yashar & Varg,

Thank you for contributing!

As recent events show [1,2], the government of Iran does not always have the best interest of its citizens in mind. Let us pray to God that this will change soon!

[1] http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2009/06/14/iran-unrest-on-twitter.html
[2] http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2009/06/15/before-the-deaths.html

]]> By: Varg http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/09/01/taking-down-iran-in-two-easy-steps.html/comment-page-1#comment-283418 Varg Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:20:03 +0000 http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/09/01/taking-down-iran-in-two-easy-steps.html#comment-283418 Hey guys I'm a persain and living in sweden right now because of my family. Firstly i wanna say that all of iranian respect all americans (but not US government) Secondly, before all of comments about war, do you know what the name IRAN means? IRAN means land of aryans (Honors)...Our great king, Cyrus the great, attacked to the other countries just by the order of GOD (Refer Holy Bible) and he is called Messiah. If u just check the history,then you will findout that we never attacked to a country, we just defended and during wars we became as an unity. (as president bush also mentioned this before). i just wanna say, if someday, somehow , US just decide to occupy iran not only me but also all real iranians from all over the world will come back to Iran and die for their lands even whom that are living in US. we have a lot of problem with our government because they follow arabs and pay them money, our money and taxes; and take care of these dirty people.They call us majos (The people who are praying for fire) because before that f... muslims occupied Iran, we had our own prophet and we were Zorastians. but they just injected that f..... religion by force of sward to my people. Nowadays a lot of iranian believe that they are not muslims. they are all zorastian. Please check the history of iran, the only problem with all people around the world is that they do know about us. they just trust the propagendas that are all based on iranian government. i wish someday americans and iranians can be the best friends from all types of views like 30 years ago and before that time. at the end i'm so sorry for my poor english. Best Regards Varg Hey guys
I’m a persain and living in sweden right now because of my family.
Firstly i wanna say that all of iranian respect all americans (but not US government)
Secondly, before all of comments about war, do you know what the name IRAN means? IRAN means land of aryans (Honors)…Our great king, Cyrus the great, attacked to the other countries just by the order of GOD (Refer Holy Bible) and he is called Messiah.
If u just check the history,then you will findout that we never attacked to a country, we just defended and during wars we became as an unity. (as president bush also mentioned this before).
i just wanna say, if someday, somehow , US just decide to occupy iran not only me but also all real iranians from all over the world will come back to Iran and die for their lands even whom that are living in US.
we have a lot of problem with our government because they follow arabs and pay them money, our money and taxes; and take care of these dirty people.They call us majos (The people who are praying for fire) because before that f… muslims occupied Iran, we had our own prophet and we were Zorastians. but they just injected that f….. religion by force of sward to my people. Nowadays a lot of iranian believe that they are not muslims. they are all zorastian. Please check the history of iran, the only problem with all people around the world is that they do know about us. they just trust the propagendas that are all based on iranian government.
i wish someday americans and iranians can be the best friends from all types of views like 30 years ago and before that time.
at the end i’m so sorry for my poor english.

Best Regards
Varg

]]> By: Yashar http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/09/01/taking-down-iran-in-two-easy-steps.html/comment-page-1#comment-55312 Yashar Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:33:29 +0000 http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/09/01/taking-down-iran-in-two-easy-steps.html#comment-55312 All of Iranian like me (I'm a Azeri Speaking Iranian) will defend our Country Persia (Iran) and if we lose war on sea and air we will kill enemy solders on the ground here is our lands and americans can't move ahead , we don't like war and blood like you but if americans decide to attack we can answer them very well. I remember Japan when american peaceful people Nuked and I can remember People died for American lies like democracy but I know how delicious free bloody oil's money. We will be a powerful enemy that washington can't solve like Iraq. I wish peace for all people in the world and WISDOM for usa. Don't forget we are not like other people in the mid east and you just know us a little ..... All of Iranian like me (I’m a Azeri Speaking Iranian) will defend our Country Persia (Iran) and if we lose war on sea and air we will kill enemy solders on the ground here is our lands and americans can’t move ahead , we don’t like war and blood like you but if americans decide to attack we can answer them very well. I remember Japan when american peaceful people Nuked and I can remember People died for American lies like democracy but I know how delicious free bloody oil’s money.
We will be a powerful enemy that washington can’t solve like Iraq. I wish peace for all people in the world and WISDOM for usa.
Don’t forget we are not like other people in the mid east and you just know us a little …..

]]> By: PurpleSlog http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/09/01/taking-down-iran-in-two-easy-steps.html/comment-page-1#comment-17900 PurpleSlog Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/09/01/taking-down-iran-in-two-easy-steps.html#comment-17900 <p>Mark:<br /> <br /> I don't think Iran will fight straight up (2GW or3GW) the US Armed Forces. Mind you, I hope they would, because they would loose. More likely, they would go the 4GW route (offensive guerrilla operations aka light infantry plus terrorism) coupled with a pr/infowar offensive...and the US is getting better at that slowly.<br /> <br /> "Federal office buildings, especially IRS offices are firebombed."<br /> <br /> Well maybe. That would expose the Hezbollah (and I assume leftist aka useful idiot supporters) cells and they would get taken out. Hezbollah in the US has mostly been about raising money and running pr/info war through fronts. If Hezbollah comes out into the lite they will get hurt real quick. I think you overstate their support. <br /> <br /> Also, a weakness for the US has been most Americans really don't think we are war right now. A terrorist campaign across the US by Hezbollah et all would settle that issue. A United USA on a full spectrum war footing would not be a good thing for Iran. The last two nations the US fought that way had their regimes an political instructions totally destroyed.<br /> <br /> "And I would love it."<br /> <br /> Thank for letting us know what you side you are on. Are you a totalitarian Muslim, a Leftist, or something else?</p> Mark:

I don't think Iran will fight straight up (2GW or3GW) the US Armed Forces. Mind you, I hope they would, because they would loose. More likely, they would go the 4GW route (offensive guerrilla operations aka light infantry plus terrorism) coupled with a pr/infowar offensive…and the US is getting better at that slowly.

“Federal office buildings, especially IRS offices are firebombed.”

Well maybe. That would expose the Hezbollah (and I assume leftist aka useful idiot supporters) cells and they would get taken out. Hezbollah in the US has mostly been about raising money and running pr/info war through fronts. If Hezbollah comes out into the lite they will get hurt real quick. I think you overstate their support.

Also, a weakness for the US has been most Americans really don't think we are war right now. A terrorist campaign across the US by Hezbollah et all would settle that issue. A United USA on a full spectrum war footing would not be a good thing for Iran. The last two nations the US fought that way had their regimes an political instructions totally destroyed.

“And I would love it.”

Thank for letting us know what you side you are on. Are you a totalitarian Muslim, a Leftist, or something else?

]]> By: PurpleSlog http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/09/01/taking-down-iran-in-two-easy-steps.html/comment-page-1#comment-17901 PurpleSlog Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/09/01/taking-down-iran-in-two-easy-steps.html#comment-17901 <p><a href="mailto:Jay@Soob" rel="nofollow">Jay@Soob</a>:<br /> <br /> Any play-nice-with-iran tactic has a better chance of succeeding if Iran knows the US has other options. Think of this as the US BATNA (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_alternative_to_a_negotiated_agreement)." target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_alternative_to_a_negotiated_agreement).</a></p> Jay@Soob:

Any play-nice-with-iran tactic has a better chance of succeeding if Iran knows the US has other options. Think of this as the US BATNA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_alternative_to_a_negotiated_agreement).

]]> By: Steve Pampinella http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/09/01/taking-down-iran-in-two-easy-steps.html/comment-page-1#comment-17902 Steve Pampinella Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/09/01/taking-down-iran-in-two-easy-steps.html#comment-17902 <p>Iran's most likely response would be sponsoring global terror, and not in simply proxy wars against the Sunnis and the Israelis, but against us. Unlike Mark, I think exposing ourselves to additional targeting by global terrorists would be a phenomenally bad thing. It would mean more government control and more intrusion, all in the name of security. More pointless war means more militarism, which comes at the expense of democracy and the health of our Republic.<br /> <br /> Further, it would confirm to the Shia of the world that we are in an endless war against them. For them, the war will not have started in Jan 2008 but in 1953 with the overthrow of Mossadegh. We don't want to instigate this kind of grudge. If we are serious about Shrinking the Gap, this is completely counterintuitive. Picking a fight with the Iranians will push them so far away from us that they will never consider returning to the Core.<br /> <br /> We should keep our enemies closer, and make peace. Otherwise we will further degrade the stability of the entire region to a point where we will have no interests left except simply killing those who want to kill us because they 'know' we want to kill them. We're playing into our own Hobbesian, collective self-fulfilling prophecy.</p> Iran's most likely response would be sponsoring global terror, and not in simply proxy wars against the Sunnis and the Israelis, but against us. Unlike Mark, I think exposing ourselves to additional targeting by global terrorists would be a phenomenally bad thing. It would mean more government control and more intrusion, all in the name of security. More pointless war means more militarism, which comes at the expense of democracy and the health of our Republic.

Further, it would confirm to the Shia of the world that we are in an endless war against them. For them, the war will not have started in Jan 2008 but in 1953 with the overthrow of Mossadegh. We don't want to instigate this kind of grudge. If we are serious about Shrinking the Gap, this is completely counterintuitive. Picking a fight with the Iranians will push them so far away from us that they will never consider returning to the Core.

We should keep our enemies closer, and make peace. Otherwise we will further degrade the stability of the entire region to a point where we will have no interests left except simply killing those who want to kill us because they 'know' we want to kill them. We're playing into our own Hobbesian, collective self-fulfilling prophecy.

]]> By: Agent KAOS http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/09/01/taking-down-iran-in-two-easy-steps.html/comment-page-1#comment-17892 Agent KAOS Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/09/01/taking-down-iran-in-two-easy-steps.html#comment-17892 <p>General Dan, do you have a brilliant plan to bring Iraq and Afghanistan ongoing war to victorious conclusion for US of A before embarking on the next hypothetical war with Iran? or propitious wars and kaos is the plan!</p> General Dan, do you have a brilliant plan to bring Iraq and Afghanistan ongoing war to victorious conclusion for US of A before embarking on the next hypothetical war with Iran? or propitious wars and kaos is the plan!

]]> By: Dan tdaxp http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/09/01/taking-down-iran-in-two-easy-steps.html/comment-page-1#comment-17893 Dan tdaxp Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/09/01/taking-down-iran-in-two-easy-steps.html#comment-17893 <p>Agent,<br /> <br /> I thank you for the stunning promotion to general (blogger-general, perhaps?)<br /> <br /> The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are primarily counterinsurgencies, which is the realm of the Army and the Marines. The attack on Iran outlined above would be a blitz, which is done in our system by the Navy and Air Forces. Different forces, different wars.<br /> <br /> Now, if you would elevate me to Commander-in-Chief I'd declare victory in Iraq [1] while attempting to convert Afghanistan into a UN protectorate.<br /> <br /> [1] <a href="http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/05/09/the-victory-speech-that-george-bush-should-give.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/05/09/the-victory-speech-that-george-bush-should-give.html</a></p> Agent,

I thank you for the stunning promotion to general (blogger-general, perhaps?)

The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are primarily counterinsurgencies, which is the realm of the Army and the Marines. The attack on Iran outlined above would be a blitz, which is done in our system by the Navy and Air Forces. Different forces, different wars.

Now, if you would elevate me to Commander-in-Chief I'd declare victory in Iraq [1] while attempting to convert Afghanistan into a UN protectorate.

[1] http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/05/09/the-victory-speech-that-george-bush-should-give.html

]]> By: Agent Smart http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/09/01/taking-down-iran-in-two-easy-steps.html/comment-page-1#comment-17894 Agent Smart Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/09/01/taking-down-iran-in-two-easy-steps.html#comment-17894 <p>Ok Chief, if "Shock and Awe" for Iraq turned out to be a "counterinsurgency" operation, doesn't logic dictate that "Blitz" will be turning up as another "counterinsurgency" operation? This time with no ground troops to counter Iranian insurgency and not to mention their martyrdom mentality and proficiency in guerrilla warfare as it was shown by their disciples in Lebanon!<br /> p.s. pass the pipe chief :-)</p> Ok Chief, if “Shock and Awe” for Iraq turned out to be a “counterinsurgency” operation, doesn't logic dictate that “Blitz” will be turning up as another “counterinsurgency” operation? This time with no ground troops to counter Iranian insurgency and not to mention their martyrdom mentality and proficiency in guerrilla warfare as it was shown by their disciples in Lebanon!
p.s. pass the pipe chief :-)

]]> By: Dan tdaxp http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/09/01/taking-down-iran-in-two-easy-steps.html/comment-page-1#comment-17895 Dan tdaxp Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/09/01/taking-down-iran-in-two-easy-steps.html#comment-17895 <p>"Ok Chief,"<br /> <br /> Is that an upgrade or downgrade from "general"?<br /> <br /> "if "Shock and Awe" for Iraq turned out to be a "counterinsurgency" operation, doesn't logic dictate that "Blitz" will be turning up as another "counterinsurgency" operation?"<br /> <br /> The Iraq War began with the explicit goal of regime change before the cessation of hostilities. My post proposes that hostilities end with the Islamic Republic still in power.</p> “Ok Chief,”

Is that an upgrade or downgrade from “general”?

“if “Shock and Awe” for Iraq turned out to be a “counterinsurgency” operation, doesn't logic dictate that “Blitz” will be turning up as another “counterinsurgency” operation?”

The Iraq War began with the explicit goal of regime change before the cessation of hostilities. My post proposes that hostilities end with the Islamic Republic still in power.

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