Comments on: Sex Monger

By: Dan tdaxp

Dan tdaxp — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

If Hillary gets it, we might as well expect this for eight years: [1]

"The Democratic race for president was supposed to herald a new era for blacks and women in politics. What became clear was that for the African-American, it is the 21st century. For the woman, it is 1955."

Hillary's running -- and has run in the past -- as a white female version of Al Sharpton.

I want to thank everyone for helping me make sense of this primary race. [2]

[1] http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/01/nh_women_had_enough_insults.html
[2] http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/12/29/clinton-or-obama.html

By: PurpleSlog

PurpleSlog — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Maybe I have liberated us to actually let women be human beings in public,"

Does she actually believe this? She seems rather full of her self. I could never vote for her.

By: Brendan Grant

Brendan Grant — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

There is a term for the glacier… errr Hilary that best describes this sort of thing with her… “The Genitalia Candidate” given her propensity to use what is between her legs as a defense or an excuse when she falls behind.

By: Michael

Michael — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

http://timesonline.typepad.com/comment/2008/01/more-on-why-hil.html

Interesting blog entry, pay attention to the chart comparing poll numbers with voting numbers.

By: Dan tdaxp

Dan tdaxp — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Generally,

My love-hate feelings toward this (Like to see Democrats go after each other, really hope Hillary loses, enjoy politics for the thrill of it) made me think Saliva's "Ladies and Gentlemen" fits:

"Ladies and gentlemen please
Would you bring your attention to me?
For a feast for your eyes to see
An explosion of catastrophe

Like nothing you’ve ever seen before
Watch closely as I open this door
Your jaws will be on the floor
After this you’ll be begging for more

Welcome to the show"

Michael,

Alternatively, Hillary was just able to rev up her base of uneducated, poor, older, females.

By: J. Kauffman

J. Kauffman — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

On a similiar note.
I think it's pretty clear that male candidates are allowed to be sexy. That their sex appeal is proclaimed as an attribute. But, I think it's also clear that that isn't the case for women. A woman isn't allowed to be sexy, she has to prove that she's tough. She has to prove that she's manly. For instance, she couldn't even wear pearls and a pink blazer without a media frenzy.

By: Michael

Michael — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Dan
I dunno, if that's the case then why didn't it happen in Iowa? Did the caucus restrictions keep that demographic from attending? Do poorer, uneducated women in the MidWest prefer Republicans?
J
I wish I could disagree with you. Question, though, is who is disallowing it? Would American society really disapprove, or is it just her own insecurities talking-- insecurities born partly of her generation?

By: Dan tdaxp

Dan tdaxp — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Michael,

Both New Hampshire and Iowa experienced a surge of new voters, and the Democratic Party side of both states set records. However, the increase in Iowa was much greater than the increase in New Hampshire, while the percentage of the vote in Iowa was less in New Hampshire.

This allowed voters who were energized by Obama's unconventional campaign to sway the election in Iowa, while more typical machine politics won New Hampshire.

J,

Your comment ties into Brendan's.

The attributes of the chief executive of a state are often thought of as masculine, or "though ." The notable female chief executives this world has seen (Golda Mier, Margaret Thatcher, Indira Gandhi, etc) have certainly shared these attributes. Likewie, high-ranking females in the national security establishment (Madaline Albright and Condoleeza Rice, in our country) have as well.

For much of her Senate career, Clinton has established herself as a would-be tough leader. Very well. I applaud her in that.

In campaign-mode, though, her reaction is to throw off such a mantle, and campaign both on the basis of and as a complaint against typical sex roles.

As we've seen again and again, Clinton's style does not match her substance.

Since the Iowa caucuses, Clinton's decided to take on Obama not by emphasizing her own toughness, but rather by mongering to sex in the same way that Shaprton and Jackson monger to race.

That's very distressing, and it confirms my endorsement of Obama for the Democratic nomination.

By: The Red Son

The Red Son — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

One wonders what Barack would have to do to "liberate us and let black men be human beings in public."

kudos

By: J.Kauffman

J.Kauffman — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

the sign that read "iron my pants" clearly wasn't in hillary's mind. that's not her making an issue of sex.
of course candidates will bring up things that don't necessarily belong in the race, just because clinton might emphasize realities for political gain, that doesn't mean that those realities don't exist.