Comments on: Try Hugo Chavez in the ICC http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2008/03/04/try-hugo-chavez-in-the-icc.html High-minded, fanatically malthusian perspectives Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:26:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: ElamBend http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2008/03/04/try-hugo-chavez-in-the-icc.html/comment-page-1#comment-26712 ElamBend Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:33:30 +0000 http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2008/03/04/try-hugo-chavez-in-the-icc.html#comment-26712 Sean, Uribe hardly turned his back on Chavez and Chavez was hardly being helpful. Chavez was meeting with members of FARC and the military without permission. He was meddling in Colombian state affairs beyond the hostage negotiations that he offered to help with. What country's leader wouldn't kick out someone who meddled as much, particularly when that person has vilified the elected leader as Chavez has. Now, with the recent facts that have come to light, it does not even appear that Chavez was negotiating in good faith. His goals certainly weren't to free the hostages, it was to embarrass Uribe, and now it seems that he may have been offering safe haven to FARC. Sean,
Uribe hardly turned his back on Chavez and Chavez was hardly being helpful. Chavez was meeting with members of FARC and the military without permission. He was meddling in Colombian state affairs beyond the hostage negotiations that he offered to help with. What country’s leader wouldn’t kick out someone who meddled as much, particularly when that person has vilified the elected leader as Chavez has. Now, with the recent facts that have come to light, it does not even appear that Chavez was negotiating in good faith. His goals certainly weren’t to free the hostages, it was to embarrass Uribe, and now it seems that he may have been offering safe haven to FARC.

]]> By: Dan tdaxp http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2008/03/04/try-hugo-chavez-in-the-icc.html/comment-page-1#comment-26597 Dan tdaxp Thu, 06 Mar 2008 13:26:05 +0000 http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2008/03/04/try-hugo-chavez-in-the-icc.html#comment-26597 Sean, "Chavez was instrumental in negotiating the release of hostages, at Uribe’s initial request… even after Uribe then turned his back on the eventually successful negotiations." Reference to your version of events? Jay, Agreed. Ending the war on drugs would be a good thing. Welfare programs (which is what the War on Drugs is -- certain segments need to be protected from spending their money on stupid forms of entertainment) should not be handled through the courts. Jeffrey, Hu Jintao is currently the head of state for one of the greatest anti-poverty engines in the history of man, so not sure why he's on the list. Saud and Musharraf are hardly wonderful people, and I would not cry if they were to go, but not sure what a pro-growth alternative would look like in either of those countries. Sean,

“Chavez was instrumental in negotiating the release of hostages, at Uribe’s initial request… even after Uribe then turned his back on the eventually successful negotiations.”

Reference to your version of events?

Jay,

Agreed. Ending the war on drugs would be a good thing.

Welfare programs (which is what the War on Drugs is — certain segments need to be protected from spending their money on stupid forms of entertainment) should not be handled through the courts.

Jeffrey,

Hu Jintao is currently the head of state for one of the greatest anti-poverty engines in the history of man, so not sure why he’s on the list.

Saud and Musharraf are hardly wonderful people, and I would not cry if they were to go, but not sure what a pro-growth alternative would look like in either of those countries.

]]> By: Jeffrey James http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2008/03/04/try-hugo-chavez-in-the-icc.html/comment-page-1#comment-26106 Jeffrey James Thu, 06 Mar 2008 04:11:05 +0000 http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2008/03/04/try-hugo-chavez-in-the-icc.html#comment-26106 Dan, What about Abdullah al-Saud, Hu Jintao, Pervez Musharraf, and Hosni Mubarak. However, they are strategically critical to the U.S., so I guess they can have a free pass. Dan,

What about Abdullah al-Saud, Hu Jintao, Pervez Musharraf, and Hosni Mubarak. However, they are strategically critical to the U.S., so I guess they can have a free pass.

]]> By: Jay@Soob http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2008/03/04/try-hugo-chavez-in-the-icc.html/comment-page-1#comment-25896 Jay@Soob Thu, 06 Mar 2008 01:42:11 +0000 http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2008/03/04/try-hugo-chavez-in-the-icc.html#comment-25896 Once the Bolivairian Boob is behind bars, perhaps we can sling the "War on Drugs" in an ajoining cell on similar charges? New platform looks good, Dan Once the Bolivairian Boob is behind bars, perhaps we can sling the “War on Drugs” in an ajoining cell on similar charges?
New platform looks good, Dan

]]> By: Sean http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2008/03/04/try-hugo-chavez-in-the-icc.html/comment-page-1#comment-25683 Sean Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:04:10 +0000 http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2008/03/04/try-hugo-chavez-in-the-icc.html#comment-25683 I find the accusations directed at Chavez and Correa regarding FARC ties to be interesting, as well as disturbing - particularly their proliferation in the general media. After all, just a couple months ago, Chavez was instrumental in negotiating the release of hostages, at Uribe's initial request... even after Uribe then turned his back on the eventually successful negotiations. It seems odd to advocate trying a man (admittedly egotistical) when he was recently so helpful... Check out the top post at my blog (http://are-you-confused.blogspot.com/) for a full response. I find the accusations directed at Chavez and Correa regarding FARC ties to be interesting, as well as disturbing – particularly their proliferation in the general media. After all, just a couple months ago, Chavez was instrumental in negotiating the release of hostages, at Uribe’s initial request… even after Uribe then turned his back on the eventually successful negotiations. It seems odd to advocate trying a man (admittedly egotistical) when he was recently so helpful…

Check out the top post at my blog (http://are-you-confused.blogspot.com/) for a full response.

]]> By: Dan tdaxp http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2008/03/04/try-hugo-chavez-in-the-icc.html/comment-page-1#comment-25009 Dan tdaxp Wed, 05 Mar 2008 02:05:27 +0000 http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2008/03/04/try-hugo-chavez-in-the-icc.html#comment-25009 Bloomberg has more of the details [1] [1] http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601086&sid=av8Hk0ffaBAE&refer=latin_america Bloomberg has more of the details [1]

[1] http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601086&sid=av8Hk0ffaBAE&refer=latin_america

]]> By: Eddie http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2008/03/04/try-hugo-chavez-in-the-icc.html/comment-page-1#comment-24922 Eddie Tue, 04 Mar 2008 22:39:07 +0000 http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2008/03/04/try-hugo-chavez-in-the-icc.html#comment-24922 If the evidence is for real, he should definitely be in the dock. We don't need another criminal enterprise in power in the world, ala Charles Taylor. If the evidence is for real, he should definitely be in the dock. We don’t need another criminal enterprise in power in the world, ala Charles Taylor.

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