Comments on: The Kennedy Analogy http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2008/04/08/the-kennedy-analogy.html High-minded, fanatically malthusian perspectives Tue, 07 Feb 2012 22:09:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Dan tdaxp http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2008/04/08/the-kennedy-analogy.html/comment-page-1#comment-55449 Dan tdaxp Tue, 15 Apr 2008 01:17:18 +0000 http://www.tdaxp.com/?p=5469#comment-55449 I think a better analogy is Governor Michael Dukakis [1]. Admittedly, the Governor has more political & executive experience than Obama, but both seem to be the sort of liberal politicians that could create very comfortable homes for themselves in liberal enclaves, but are out-of-touch with ordinary Americans. Compare this to Hillary, who can down a shot without looking absurd [2]. [1] http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2008/04/14/at-least-willie-horton-didnt-question-why-you-confess-your-religion.html [2] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5k16Aka0Rgg&feature=related I think a better analogy is Governor Michael Dukakis [1]. Admittedly, the Governor has more political & executive experience than Obama, but both seem to be the sort of liberal politicians that could create very comfortable homes for themselves in liberal enclaves, but are out-of-touch with ordinary Americans.

Compare this to Hillary, who can down a shot without looking absurd [2].

[1] http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2008/04/14/at-least-willie-horton-didnt-question-why-you-confess-your-religion.html
[2] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5k16Aka0Rgg&feature=related

]]> By: Jay@Soob http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2008/04/08/the-kennedy-analogy.html/comment-page-1#comment-52564 Jay@Soob Wed, 09 Apr 2008 22:34:45 +0000 http://www.tdaxp.com/?p=5469#comment-52564 I suspect Kennedy's "new generation" remembrance has as much to do with his relative youth, early and violent death as it does with any lasting policies he brought to the table. Kennedy certainly didn't come into office rejecting the current national struggle (as Obama has done in regards to Iraq) quite the contrary, his most infamous speech was very nationalistic and encouraged the very principles that Obama's politics defy. As for a more likely comparison, I think charisma and Sarkozy comes to mind, but his level of experience defies this comparison. Maybe an articulate GW Bush? A guy many will vote for based purely on emotion? Tough question. I suspect Kennedy’s “new generation” remembrance has as much to do with his relative youth, early and violent death as it does with any lasting policies he brought to the table.

Kennedy certainly didn’t come into office rejecting the current national struggle (as Obama has done in regards to Iraq) quite the contrary, his most infamous speech was very nationalistic and encouraged the very principles that Obama’s politics defy.

As for a more likely comparison, I think charisma and Sarkozy comes to mind, but his level of experience defies this comparison.

Maybe an articulate GW Bush? A guy many will vote for based purely on emotion?

Tough question.

]]> By: Lexington Green http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2008/04/08/the-kennedy-analogy.html/comment-page-1#comment-51947 Lexington Green Tue, 08 Apr 2008 19:55:04 +0000 http://www.tdaxp.com/?p=5469#comment-51947 The Kennedy analogy can only hold up in negative ways. JFK came in as a naive and inexperienced man. The Soviets had him pegged as a drug-addled playboy, a glamourous lightweight. Krushchev chose to take very aggressive steps because, in mobster fashion, after he screamed at Kennedy in Vienna and saw him flinch, he thought Kennedy was spineless. Kennedy also went along with the Bay of Pigs, meddling enough only to further guarantee failure. I can see Obama being perceived by our enemies in similar fashion, and making irresponsible early decisions pertaining to military affairs due to inexperience. The Kennedy analogy can only hold up in negative ways. JFK came in as a naive and inexperienced man. The Soviets had him pegged as a drug-addled playboy, a glamourous lightweight. Krushchev chose to take very aggressive steps because, in mobster fashion, after he screamed at Kennedy in Vienna and saw him flinch, he thought Kennedy was spineless. Kennedy also went along with the Bay of Pigs, meddling enough only to further guarantee failure.

I can see Obama being perceived by our enemies in similar fashion, and making irresponsible early decisions pertaining to military affairs due to inexperience.

]]> By: fl http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2008/04/08/the-kennedy-analogy.html/comment-page-1#comment-51890 fl Tue, 08 Apr 2008 19:04:46 +0000 http://www.tdaxp.com/?p=5469#comment-51890 I definitely don't see the Kennedy analogy as a viable one -- plus it's a far too easy (and therefore suspect) rhetorical move to make in terms of highlighting someone's capability for changing the country. I'm still pulling for Hillary, though unfortunately, it doesn't seem like many of my fellow Democrats are. I definitely don’t see the Kennedy analogy as a viable one — plus it’s a far too easy (and therefore suspect) rhetorical move to make in terms of highlighting someone’s capability for changing the country. I’m still pulling for Hillary, though unfortunately, it doesn’t seem like many of my fellow Democrats are.

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