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		<title>By: Dan tdaxp</title>
		<link>http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2008/05/10/obama-and-the-57-states.html/comment-page-1#comment-70990</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan tdaxp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 12:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seerov,

Thanks for the comment.

It&#039;s clear that affirmative action is a dangerous program that makes integration of new immigrant groups harder.  It doesn&#039;t prevented latinos from integration so far, however, so I don&#039;t think it is show-stopper.

Latino immigration into the United States appears to be on the same scale as German immigration a century ago.  Like the Germans, the Latinos have a high rate of out-marriage, so the concern of the United States become a multiethnic country is minimal, especially compared to what we have done in the past.

Purpleslog,

LOL!  I had misread your comment --- I didn&#039;t see the &quot;not&quot; in &quot;There are 3 good reasons not vote for him: his proposed foreign policy, his proposed economic policies, his proposed domestic policies.&quot;  :-)

Still, I&#039;m curious because his positions are slippery enough I have no idea of his &quot;true&#039; positions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seerov,</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s clear that affirmative action is a dangerous program that makes integration of new immigrant groups harder.  It doesn&#8217;t prevented latinos from integration so far, however, so I don&#8217;t think it is show-stopper.</p>
<p>Latino immigration into the United States appears to be on the same scale as German immigration a century ago.  Like the Germans, the Latinos have a high rate of out-marriage, so the concern of the United States become a multiethnic country is minimal, especially compared to what we have done in the past.</p>
<p>Purpleslog,</p>
<p>LOL!  I had misread your comment &#8212; I didn&#8217;t see the &#8220;not&#8221; in &#8220;There are 3 good reasons not vote for him: his proposed foreign policy, his proposed economic policies, his proposed domestic policies.&#8221;  <img src='http://www.tdaxp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Still, I&#8217;m curious because his positions are slippery enough I have no idea of his &#8220;true&#8217; positions.</p>
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		<title>By: purpleslog</title>
		<link>http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2008/05/10/obama-and-the-57-states.html/comment-page-1#comment-70630</link>
		<dc:creator>purpleslog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 00:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair enough. Let me put a more thoughtful anti-Obama post together that will include policy stuff (anti-globalization, anti-capitalism, pro-taxes, pro-lawfare) and gut feeling stuff (e.g. he is a not-so-secret Marxist, he is building a cult of personality)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough. Let me put a more thoughtful anti-Obama post together that will include policy stuff (anti-globalization, anti-capitalism, pro-taxes, pro-lawfare) and gut feeling stuff (e.g. he is a not-so-secret Marxist, he is building a cult of personality)</p>
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		<title>By: Seerov</title>
		<link>http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2008/05/10/obama-and-the-57-states.html/comment-page-1#comment-70266</link>
		<dc:creator>Seerov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 15:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read your &quot;argument&quot; for annexing Mexico.  I think this type of thinking is shared by many of the elites in the United States.  I would support this plan if freedom of association was reimplemented and all racial preferences are done away with.  Any other way will lead to a totalitarian state.  

If we look at the history of multi ethnic states, we see lots of death.  Of course, I think it was Hagel would said something like &quot;history shows us that people don&#039;t learn from history.&quot;  We see this with socialist states as well.  Leftists support socialism or quasi-socialism regardless of the history of failure that these states bring.  

In the former USSR, no one could say that socialism didn&#039;t work---while standing in the breadline.  The same will be true in the US.  This is why in the near future we&#039;ll see the implementation of &quot;hate-speech&quot; laws.  This way, no one will be able to say that multi-ethnic states don&#039;t work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read your &#8220;argument&#8221; for annexing Mexico.  I think this type of thinking is shared by many of the elites in the United States.  I would support this plan if freedom of association was reimplemented and all racial preferences are done away with.  Any other way will lead to a totalitarian state.  </p>
<p>If we look at the history of multi ethnic states, we see lots of death.  Of course, I think it was Hagel would said something like &#8220;history shows us that people don&#8217;t learn from history.&#8221;  We see this with socialist states as well.  Leftists support socialism or quasi-socialism regardless of the history of failure that these states bring.  </p>
<p>In the former USSR, no one could say that socialism didn&#8217;t work&#8212;while standing in the breadline.  The same will be true in the US.  This is why in the near future we&#8217;ll see the implementation of &#8220;hate-speech&#8221; laws.  This way, no one will be able to say that multi-ethnic states don&#8217;t work.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan tdaxp</title>
		<link>http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2008/05/10/obama-and-the-57-states.html/comment-page-1#comment-70007</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan tdaxp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 23:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Purpleslog,

&lt;blockquote&gt;There are 3 good reasons not vote for him: his proposed foreign policy, his proposed economic policies, his proposed domestic policies.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Could you say what these are?

I have heard so many contradictory things on these from his supporters (He will meet with Iranian leaders.  Except not personally, only through backdoor intermediaries.  He will negotiate NAFTA.  Except he&#039;s obviously just duping gullible unionists.  &amp;c) I do not know where he stands or what his expected pattern of action would be.

Shane,

Obama&#039;s statement was an error in word production, something most people do regularly and not a big deal.  

Jumping to ascribe it to Obama&#039;s African ancestry would clearly be a bigoted slur.

Similarly, jumping to ascribe word production errors on McCain&#039;s part to age would clearly be a bigoted slur.

The hypocrisy among many of Obama&#039;s prominent supporters is surprising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Purpleslog,</p>
<blockquote><p>There are 3 good reasons not vote for him: his proposed foreign policy, his proposed economic policies, his proposed domestic policies.</p></blockquote>
<p>Could you say what these are?</p>
<p>I have heard so many contradictory things on these from his supporters (He will meet with Iranian leaders.  Except not personally, only through backdoor intermediaries.  He will negotiate NAFTA.  Except he&#8217;s obviously just duping gullible unionists.  &#038;c) I do not know where he stands or what his expected pattern of action would be.</p>
<p>Shane,</p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s statement was an error in word production, something most people do regularly and not a big deal.  </p>
<p>Jumping to ascribe it to Obama&#8217;s African ancestry would clearly be a bigoted slur.</p>
<p>Similarly, jumping to ascribe word production errors on McCain&#8217;s part to age would clearly be a bigoted slur.</p>
<p>The hypocrisy among many of Obama&#8217;s prominent supporters is surprising.</p>
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		<title>By: deichmans</title>
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		<dc:creator>deichmans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 20:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think his mind was moving faster than his mouth could talk.  He probably *meant* to say &quot;50 ... 47 states, which leaves 1 to go.  They won&#039;t let me go to Alaska or Hawaii&quot;.

If AK and HI are out (either because five hours on a one-way flight is too much time away from arduous campaign, or because there&#039;s no doubt which way they&#039;ll vote), then he&#039;s realistically campaigning in the 48 CONUS states.

So, with &quot;one to go&quot;, 48 - 1 = 47.  Not a gaffe, just a misspoken comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think his mind was moving faster than his mouth could talk.  He probably *meant* to say &#8220;50 &#8230; 47 states, which leaves 1 to go.  They won&#8217;t let me go to Alaska or Hawaii&#8221;.</p>
<p>If AK and HI are out (either because five hours on a one-way flight is too much time away from arduous campaign, or because there&#8217;s no doubt which way they&#8217;ll vote), then he&#8217;s realistically campaigning in the 48 CONUS states.</p>
<p>So, with &#8220;one to go&#8221;, 48 &#8211; 1 = 47.  Not a gaffe, just a misspoken comment.</p>
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		<title>By: purpleslog</title>
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		<dc:creator>purpleslog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 15:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have seen the clip a few times. I think Obama is trying to make a joke using exaggeration. 

BTW, I am not voting for him - so I am not trying to cover up for him. There are 3 good reasons not vote for him: his proposed foreign policy, his proposed economic policies, his proposed domestic policies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have seen the clip a few times. I think Obama is trying to make a joke using exaggeration. </p>
<p>BTW, I am not voting for him &#8211; so I am not trying to cover up for him. There are 3 good reasons not vote for him: his proposed foreign policy, his proposed economic policies, his proposed domestic policies.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan tdaxp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan tdaxp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 14:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seerov,

We should annex the Mexican States [1], Cuba [2,3], and so on, in a steady process that would mirror the European Union&#039;s absorption of central and eastern Europe.  The first link should link to one of my posts that begin to argue why.

fl,

Are any Obama supporters &quot;insulted&quot; [4] by your concerns? :-)

[1] http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2006/04/12/the-manifest-destiny-of-the-american-nation.html
[2] http://www.thomaspmbarnett.com/weblog/2004/03/who_wants_to_be_the_51st_state.html
[3] http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9B07EFDD153DE433A25756C1A9609C946397D6CF
[4] http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2008/05/08/insulted-by-reality.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seerov,</p>
<p>We should annex the Mexican States [1], Cuba [2,3], and so on, in a steady process that would mirror the European Union&#8217;s absorption of central and eastern Europe.  The first link should link to one of my posts that begin to argue why.</p>
<p>fl,</p>
<p>Are any Obama supporters &#8220;insulted&#8221; [4] by your concerns? <img src='http://www.tdaxp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>[1] <a href="http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2006/04/12/the-manifest-destiny-of-the-american-nation.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2006/04/12/the-manifest-destiny-of-the-american-nation.html</a><br />
[2] <a href="http://www.thomaspmbarnett.com/weblog/2004/03/who_wants_to_be_the_51st_state.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.thomaspmbarnett.com/weblog/2004/03/who_wants_to_be_the_51st_state.html</a><br />
[3] <a href="http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9B07EFDD153DE433A25756C1A9609C946397D6CF" rel="nofollow">http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9B07EFDD153DE433A25756C1A9609C946397D6CF</a><br />
[4] <a href="http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2008/05/08/insulted-by-reality.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2008/05/08/insulted-by-reality.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Seerov</title>
		<link>http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2008/05/10/obama-and-the-57-states.html/comment-page-1#comment-69436</link>
		<dc:creator>Seerov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 18:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who exactly should we annex?  After telling us who we should annex, tell us why this would benefit us?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who exactly should we annex?  After telling us who we should annex, tell us why this would benefit us?</p>
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		<title>By: fl</title>
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		<dc:creator>fl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 15:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, I wish there was some marker in the clip here to suggest Obama were kidding, but there&#039;s not, and that worries me just a bit ... I mean, I think he&#039;s joking, but can&#039;t make a definitive argument that he is. (What also worries me as a Democrat is that Clinton&#039;s not going to pull through, unfortunately.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I wish there was some marker in the clip here to suggest Obama were kidding, but there&#8217;s not, and that worries me just a bit &#8230; I mean, I think he&#8217;s joking, but can&#8217;t make a definitive argument that he is. (What also worries me as a Democrat is that Clinton&#8217;s not going to pull through, unfortunately.)</p>
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