Comments on: The Obama Movement http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2008/05/13/the-obama-movement.html High-minded, fanatically malthusian perspectives Tue, 07 Feb 2012 22:09:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: tdaxp » Blog Archive » The Sound of No Hands Clapping http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2008/05/13/the-obama-movement.html/comment-page-1#comment-73059 tdaxp » Blog Archive » The Sound of No Hands Clapping Sat, 17 May 2008 16:45:17 +0000 http://www.tdaxp.com/?p=5551#comment-73059 [...] I hope no one reads this post in a way that gives legitimacy or esteem to those who believe that Obama is a transcendent figure.) « China, Learning and Growing [...] [...] I hope no one reads this post in a way that gives legitimacy or esteem to those who believe that Obama is a transcendent figure.) « China, Learning and Growing [...]

]]> By: Dan tdaxp http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2008/05/13/the-obama-movement.html/comment-page-1#comment-72994 Dan tdaxp Sat, 17 May 2008 13:34:30 +0000 http://www.tdaxp.com/?p=5551#comment-72994 Jeffrey, <blockquote>Besides, any successful grassroots movement is inevitably going to be characterized as a cult by its opposition, and therefore such accusations are not going to help stop it in its tracks.</blockquote> Well said, and this amplifies my point. The Obama Movement is centered around the person of Barack Obama. Not his policies, not his actual ideas, not around vague nothings ("Change," "Hope") that cannot be ralied to, but rather around this deliverer who will change the world, because we are the ones we have been waiting for. In the creepy words of Esquire [1]: <i>There was a time when the cynic would have read into this the hand of what the powdered-wig set in Philadelphia called “Divine Providence.” It would have been more than a landmark. It would have meant something else entirely. But politics has lost its imagination and it is dead to metaphor, and the cynic sees the water tower that says “Freedom,” and it’s only a measure of how utterly lost he is. Convince me, he says to himself. Convince me that I’m wrong. Convince me that there’s enough left that’s worth saving. Convince me that there are enough people left who care enough to save it. Convince me. Convince me. Convince me.</i> Meanwhile, I support my candidate because of his policy positions [2]. <blockquote>Oh, and I found the above link amusing. I suppose using Obama as a stick man in local elections isn’t as effective as some people thought.</blockquote> As we previously discussed, the Democratic Party can do quite well when it adopts a right-wing cultural line. Lexington, Good point. [1] http://www.esquire.com/features/barack-obama-0608 [2] http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2008/04/06/why-i-support-john-mccain.html Jeffrey,

Besides, any successful grassroots movement is inevitably going to be characterized as a cult by its opposition, and therefore such accusations are not going to help stop it in its tracks.

Well said, and this amplifies my point.

The Obama Movement is centered around the person of Barack Obama. Not his policies, not his actual ideas, not around vague nothings (“Change,” “Hope”) that cannot be ralied to, but rather around this deliverer who will change the world, because we are the ones we have been waiting for.

In the creepy words of Esquire [1]:

There was a time when the cynic would have read into this the hand of what the powdered-wig set in Philadelphia called “Divine Providence.” It would have been more than a landmark. It would have meant something else entirely. But politics has lost its imagination and it is dead to metaphor, and the cynic sees the water tower that says “Freedom,” and it’s only a measure of how utterly lost he is.

Convince me, he says to himself.

Convince me that I’m wrong. Convince me that there’s enough left that’s worth saving. Convince me that there are enough people left who care enough to save it.

Convince me. Convince me. Convince me.

Meanwhile, I support my candidate because of his policy positions [2].

Oh, and I found the above link amusing. I suppose using Obama as a stick man in local elections isn’t as effective as some people thought.

As we previously discussed, the Democratic Party can do quite well when it adopts a right-wing cultural line.

Lexington,

Good point.

[1] http://www.esquire.com/features/barack-obama-0608
[2] http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2008/04/06/why-i-support-john-mccain.html

]]> By: Jeffrey James http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2008/05/13/the-obama-movement.html/comment-page-1#comment-71824 Jeffrey James Thu, 15 May 2008 02:14:47 +0000 http://www.tdaxp.com/?p=5551#comment-71824 "The Obama Cult is kind of creepy" You know, insulting one candidate’s base isn't the best way of winning support for their opposition. Besides, any successful grassroots movement is inevitably going to be characterized as a cult by its opposition, and therefore such accusations are not going to help stop it in its tracks. http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/14/miss.election/index.html Oh, and I found the above link amusing. I suppose using Obama as a stick man in local elections isn't as effective as some people thought. “The Obama Cult is kind of creepy”

You know, insulting one candidate’s base isn’t the best way of winning support for their opposition. Besides, any successful grassroots movement is inevitably going to be characterized as a cult by its opposition, and therefore such accusations are not going to help stop it in its tracks.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/14/miss.election/index.html

Oh, and I found the above link amusing. I suppose using Obama as a stick man in local elections isn’t as effective as some people thought.

]]> By: Lexington Green http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2008/05/13/the-obama-movement.html/comment-page-1#comment-71615 Lexington Green Wed, 14 May 2008 17:15:50 +0000 http://www.tdaxp.com/?p=5551#comment-71615 "...what will make the American people sick of Barack Obama." 18 to 24 months of his presidency. I am hoping for a good midterm for the GOP in 2010. “…what will make the American people sick of Barack Obama.”

18 to 24 months of his presidency.

I am hoping for a good midterm for the GOP in 2010.

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