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		<title>By: tdaxp &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Obama captiulates on foreigner-bashing!</title>
		<link>http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2008/09/01/obamas-19th-century-view-of-science-and-technology.html/comment-page-1#comment-138954</link>
		<dc:creator>tdaxp &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Obama captiulates on foreigner-bashing!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] previously criticized Obama for hinting that he would kick the forigners out of the country. I am glad he came [...]</description>
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		<title>By: tdaxp &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Don&#8217;t like science? Then call the scientist a racist</title>
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		<dc:creator>tdaxp &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Don&#8217;t like science? Then call the scientist a racist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 12:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tdaxp</title>
		<link>http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2008/09/01/obamas-19th-century-view-of-science-and-technology.html/comment-page-1#comment-131177</link>
		<dc:creator>tdaxp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>biz,

Good points.

Not sure how McCain will answer the questions.  

Still, I know McCain&#039;s policy on comprehensive skilled and unskilled immigration.  No idea what Obama is, excepting for saying pleasing things to both sides without actually doing anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>biz,</p>
<p>Good points.</p>
<p>Not sure how McCain will answer the questions.  </p>
<p>Still, I know McCain&#8217;s policy on comprehensive skilled and unskilled immigration.  No idea what Obama is, excepting for saying pleasing things to both sides without actually doing anything.</p>
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		<title>By: biz</title>
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		<dc:creator>biz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do find it interesting that you&#039;ve decried Obamas science answers as the worse choice, despite the fact that McCain&#039;s haven&#039;t even been posted.
I&#039;ll bet you a dollar that McCain won&#039;t talk about how immigration affects science either.
How Victorian of him!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do find it interesting that you&#8217;ve decried Obamas science answers as the worse choice, despite the fact that McCain&#8217;s haven&#8217;t even been posted.<br />
I&#8217;ll bet you a dollar that McCain won&#8217;t talk about how immigration affects science either.<br />
How Victorian of him!</p>
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		<title>By: tdaxp</title>
		<link>http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2008/09/01/obamas-19th-century-view-of-science-and-technology.html/comment-page-1#comment-129167</link>
		<dc:creator>tdaxp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 23:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eddie,

More on Obama&#039;s backwards view of immigration.  Note the &#039;bundle of work&#039; fallacy -- I bolded it for your convenience.  The following paragraph from the page you listed is vague and tortured -- like most of what Obama puts out -- but appears to be suggesting that we can/should reduce the number of H1Bs we let into the country:

&lt;i&gt;While highly skilled immigrants have contributed in beneficial ways to our domestic technology industry, &lt;b&gt;there are plenty of Americans who could be filling those positions given the proper training&lt;/b&gt;. Barack Obama is committed to investing in communities and people who have not had an opportunity to work and participate in the Internet economy as anything other than consumers. Most H-1B new arrivals, for example, have earned a bachelor’s degree or its equivalent abroad (42.5%). They are not all PhDs. We can and should produce more Americans with bachelor’s degrees that lead to jobs in technology&lt;/i&gt;

I don&#039;t know what your point is re: 19th century.  Are you suggesting that China and India colonizing new lands with their immigrants?  I doubt it.  More likely, you are bringing up an unrelated issue (SWF) in an attempt to change the subject from Obama&#039;s bad record on immigration.

fl,

While I think we disagree on civil liberties when it comes to education anyway, I&#039;ve previously considered McCain and Obama to be equally bad when it comes to science.

I am rethinking this, as I did not think that STEM labor was part of that debate.  If it is, Obama&#039;s definitely the worse candidate.

[1] http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2008/04/06/why-i-support-john-mccain.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eddie,</p>
<p>More on Obama&#8217;s backwards view of immigration.  Note the &#8216;bundle of work&#8217; fallacy &#8212; I bolded it for your convenience.  The following paragraph from the page you listed is vague and tortured &#8212; like most of what Obama puts out &#8212; but appears to be suggesting that we can/should reduce the number of H1Bs we let into the country:</p>
<p><i>While highly skilled immigrants have contributed in beneficial ways to our domestic technology industry, <b>there are plenty of Americans who could be filling those positions given the proper training</b>. Barack Obama is committed to investing in communities and people who have not had an opportunity to work and participate in the Internet economy as anything other than consumers. Most H-1B new arrivals, for example, have earned a bachelor’s degree or its equivalent abroad (42.5%). They are not all PhDs. We can and should produce more Americans with bachelor’s degrees that lead to jobs in technology</i></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what your point is re: 19th century.  Are you suggesting that China and India colonizing new lands with their immigrants?  I doubt it.  More likely, you are bringing up an unrelated issue (SWF) in an attempt to change the subject from Obama&#8217;s bad record on immigration.</p>
<p>fl,</p>
<p>While I think we disagree on civil liberties when it comes to education anyway, I&#8217;ve previously considered McCain and Obama to be equally bad when it comes to science.</p>
<p>I am rethinking this, as I did not think that STEM labor was part of that debate.  If it is, Obama&#8217;s definitely the worse candidate.</p>
<p>[1] <a href="http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2008/04/06/why-i-support-john-mccain.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2008/04/06/why-i-support-john-mccain.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Eddie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the above commenter as well as adding the more problematic question of the GOP&#039;s hostility in their new platform to even private stem-cell research in America.

Less controversial, Obama proposes the USG have a CTO and redefine &amp; expand broadband access as well as doubling USG investment in basic scientific and technology research. He also wants patent reform, an issue I heard about often when living in the Seattle/Redmond/Everett area in 2006-2007.

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/technology/

To refute some of your post&#039;s criticism here, @ that same link is his campaign&#039;s position on H1-B visa reform and setting a pathway to a road to citizenship for these visa holders.

That&#039;s the same comprehensive immigration reform John McCain once supported and offered as a bill but now tells conservative audiences he is against. 

Your overall point about his 19th century view of a Great Powers conference misses the bigger picture, that through SWF&#039;s and their own infrastructure &amp; education programs, the rising nations in Asia and elsewhere have a government-centric view of R&amp;D in the energy, computer and education sectors. Having a summit or three or creating an intra-national entity or contact group or whatever may be part of the solution rather than the problem.

I&#039;d hope and think that a President McCain will pursue most of the same policies, albeit with a greater nod to the market in most areas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the above commenter as well as adding the more problematic question of the GOP&#8217;s hostility in their new platform to even private stem-cell research in America.</p>
<p>Less controversial, Obama proposes the USG have a CTO and redefine &amp; expand broadband access as well as doubling USG investment in basic scientific and technology research. He also wants patent reform, an issue I heard about often when living in the Seattle/Redmond/Everett area in 2006-2007.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.barackobama.com/issues/technology/" rel="nofollow">http://www.barackobama.com/issues/technology/</a></p>
<p>To refute some of your post&#8217;s criticism here, @ that same link is his campaign&#8217;s position on H1-B visa reform and setting a pathway to a road to citizenship for these visa holders.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the same comprehensive immigration reform John McCain once supported and offered as a bill but now tells conservative audiences he is against. </p>
<p>Your overall point about his 19th century view of a Great Powers conference misses the bigger picture, that through SWF&#8217;s and their own infrastructure &amp; education programs, the rising nations in Asia and elsewhere have a government-centric view of R&amp;D in the energy, computer and education sectors. Having a summit or three or creating an intra-national entity or contact group or whatever may be part of the solution rather than the problem.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d hope and think that a President McCain will pursue most of the same policies, albeit with a greater nod to the market in most areas.</p>
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		<title>By: fl</title>
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		<dc:creator>fl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 17:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Science-wise, McCain&#039;s going to be problematic too -- his recent VP choice has stated that she supports parents&#039; rights to opt their children out of certain curricula because of belief (see http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/09/from_the_horses_mouth.php) and that &quot;parents should have the ultimate control over what their children are taught.&quot; A new generation of Biblical literalists could mean a further decline in American scientific advancement and science education, which is already in trouble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Science-wise, McCain&#8217;s going to be problematic too &#8212; his recent VP choice has stated that she supports parents&#8217; rights to opt their children out of certain curricula because of belief (see <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/09/from_the_horses_mouth.php" rel="nofollow">http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/09/from_the_horses_mouth.php</a>) and that &#8220;parents should have the ultimate control over what their children are taught.&#8221; A new generation of Biblical literalists could mean a further decline in American scientific advancement and science education, which is already in trouble.</p>
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