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		<title>By: tdaxp</title>
		<link>http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2009/01/03/redefining-5gw-again.html/comment-page-1#comment-223532</link>
		<dc:creator>tdaxp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 14:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seerov,

&lt;blockquote&gt;The population doesn’t want integration, just as they don’t want to shrink the gap. So pro gap shrinkers will need to think up a program of subversion that “helps” the population see why its “good.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well said.

Changing orientation state -- which we may refer to as implicit memory -- is typical of 4GW.

&lt;blockquote&gt;As a soon to be psychologist, this type of project should be right up your ally?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Of course! [1] :-)

[1] http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/07/16/orientation-and-action-part-ii-the-ooda-pisrr-loop.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seerov,</p>
<blockquote><p>The population doesn’t want integration, just as they don’t want to shrink the gap. So pro gap shrinkers will need to think up a program of subversion that “helps” the population see why its “good.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Well said.</p>
<p>Changing orientation state &#8212; which we may refer to as implicit memory &#8212; is typical of 4GW.</p>
<blockquote><p>As a soon to be psychologist, this type of project should be right up your ally?</p></blockquote>
<p>Of course! [1] <img src='http://www.tdaxp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>[1] <a href="http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/07/16/orientation-and-action-part-ii-the-ooda-pisrr-loop.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/07/16/orientation-and-action-part-ii-the-ooda-pisrr-loop.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Seerov</title>
		<link>http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2009/01/03/redefining-5gw-again.html/comment-page-1#comment-221754</link>
		<dc:creator>Seerov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 08:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wasn&#039;t claiming DIS is 5GW.  I&#039;m saying that DIS is a subversive technique used by the establishment to get the public to accept forced integration. This form of subversion is similar to what &quot;gap shinkers&quot; will need to utilize to get the population motivated to shrink the gap. 

The population doesn&#039;t want integration, just as they don&#039;t want to shrink the gap.  So pro gap shrinkers will need to think up a program of subversion that &quot;helps&quot; the population see why its &quot;good.&quot;  

The same way people claim &quot;diversity is strength,&quot; pro gap shrinkers should have the goal of one day hearing the population say stuff like &quot;shrinking the gap is good for the world&#039;s people.&quot;

As a soon to be psychologist, this type of project should be right up your ally?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t claiming DIS is 5GW.  I&#8217;m saying that DIS is a subversive technique used by the establishment to get the public to accept forced integration. This form of subversion is similar to what &#8220;gap shinkers&#8221; will need to utilize to get the population motivated to shrink the gap. </p>
<p>The population doesn&#8217;t want integration, just as they don&#8217;t want to shrink the gap.  So pro gap shrinkers will need to think up a program of subversion that &#8220;helps&#8221; the population see why its &#8220;good.&#8221;  </p>
<p>The same way people claim &#8220;diversity is strength,&#8221; pro gap shrinkers should have the goal of one day hearing the population say stuff like &#8220;shrinking the gap is good for the world&#8217;s people.&#8221;</p>
<p>As a soon to be psychologist, this type of project should be right up your ally?</p>
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		<title>By: Recent Fifth Generation Warfare (5GW) Stuff on the Internet &#171; PurpleSlog</title>
		<link>http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2009/01/03/redefining-5gw-again.html/comment-page-1#comment-221035</link>
		<dc:creator>Recent Fifth Generation Warfare (5GW) Stuff on the Internet &#171; PurpleSlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 11:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to the Quantum Theory of War. Blosint comments on it here. TDAXP has also commented with &#8220;Redefining 5GW, again&#8221; in response to that Marine Corp Gazette article and Danger Room which has a good discussion. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to the Quantum Theory of War. Blosint comments on it here. TDAXP has also commented with &#8220;Redefining 5GW, again&#8221; in response to that Marine Corp Gazette article and Danger Room which has a good discussion. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: tdaxp</title>
		<link>http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2009/01/03/redefining-5gw-again.html/comment-page-1#comment-218058</link>
		<dc:creator>tdaxp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 13:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A 5GW force is capable of winning even if it&#039;s ideology is widely reviled, and even if it does not have the manpower for a 4GW effort.

Considering that, how does &quot;Diversity is Strength&quot; qualify as 5G?  It appears to be politically active people pushing their beliefs with some success.

Of course it is subversive, but then many 4G efforts (Christianity, Maoism, etc) are, as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A 5GW force is capable of winning even if it&#8217;s ideology is widely reviled, and even if it does not have the manpower for a 4GW effort.</p>
<p>Considering that, how does &#8220;Diversity is Strength&#8221; qualify as 5G?  It appears to be politically active people pushing their beliefs with some success.</p>
<p>Of course it is subversive, but then many 4G efforts (Christianity, Maoism, etc) are, as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Seerov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seerov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 04:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;That’s closer to 4G — a battle of ideas. Some people believe “diversity is strength.” Others don’t. Some use the idea as proxies for something else.&quot; (Dan)

I think you missed my point?  I&#039;m saying the establishment in the US is propagating &quot;Diversity is Strength&quot; (DIS) as an ethnic management strategy. The establishment is subverting the US population into accepting diversity through subversive methods.  This is similar to the establishment subverting the population to shrink the gap.  The goal of the DIS strategy is ethnic integration, for the purpose of stability.  The purpose of subverting the population to shrink the gap is American hegemony.

Both end-states would be and are rejected by the population.  Most people in the US aren&#039;t willing to &quot;Shrink the Gap&quot; becuase they don&#039;t think America should &quot;Police the world.&quot;  Most people aren&#039;t willing to accept integration for reasons which are more complex.  So subversion is necessary to achieve these gaols.

The power structure subverts the populace through the use of agents.  The agents for forced integration are the education and media systems, along with the ethnic intimidation lobbies.  Cognitive warfare is utilized through the weapon of political correctness.  The population is conditioned to see diversity as good, strength, progress and homogeneity as bad, weakness, and lacking progress.  Too much &quot;whiteness&quot; will eventually lead genocide.

The power structure must also subvert the population to shrink the gap.  The agents used are the media and the military industrial complex.  Cognitive war is utilized through the weapon of patriotic correctness. The population is conditioned to see shrinking the gap as necessary for American safety. We must &quot;fight them over there so we don&#039;t have to fight them here.&quot;  America is a &quot;city of the hill&quot; that should &quot;spread Democracy&quot; and free markets. If America doesn&#039;t shrink the gap, genocide will occur.

The most optimal way to subvert the population to shrink the gap is by combining the powers of political correctness with that of patriotic correctness.  Tom Barnett is very effective at this.  He combined his Marxist roots with tough talk that appeals to the right.  He&#039;s a natural showmen as well. 

He described Samuel Huntington as being a &quot;scared old white man&quot; for bringing up the possibility of ethnic conflict in the future. This shows Barnett&#039;s skills in the use of political correctness and white male bashing.  During the Presidential campaign, Barnett liked pointing how he supported Obama every chance he could.  Barnett understands he must reach the left in order to shrink the gap.  

At the same time, Barnett attracts the military industrail complex (MIC) for obvious reasons.  There&#039;s big money to spent fixing the world, and since the military is &quot;never coming home,&quot; this money is going to flow for a long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That’s closer to 4G — a battle of ideas. Some people believe “diversity is strength.” Others don’t. Some use the idea as proxies for something else.&#8221; (Dan)</p>
<p>I think you missed my point?  I&#8217;m saying the establishment in the US is propagating &#8220;Diversity is Strength&#8221; (DIS) as an ethnic management strategy. The establishment is subverting the US population into accepting diversity through subversive methods.  This is similar to the establishment subverting the population to shrink the gap.  The goal of the DIS strategy is ethnic integration, for the purpose of stability.  The purpose of subverting the population to shrink the gap is American hegemony.</p>
<p>Both end-states would be and are rejected by the population.  Most people in the US aren&#8217;t willing to &#8220;Shrink the Gap&#8221; becuase they don&#8217;t think America should &#8220;Police the world.&#8221;  Most people aren&#8217;t willing to accept integration for reasons which are more complex.  So subversion is necessary to achieve these gaols.</p>
<p>The power structure subverts the populace through the use of agents.  The agents for forced integration are the education and media systems, along with the ethnic intimidation lobbies.  Cognitive warfare is utilized through the weapon of political correctness.  The population is conditioned to see diversity as good, strength, progress and homogeneity as bad, weakness, and lacking progress.  Too much &#8220;whiteness&#8221; will eventually lead genocide.</p>
<p>The power structure must also subvert the population to shrink the gap.  The agents used are the media and the military industrial complex.  Cognitive war is utilized through the weapon of patriotic correctness. The population is conditioned to see shrinking the gap as necessary for American safety. We must &#8220;fight them over there so we don&#8217;t have to fight them here.&#8221;  America is a &#8220;city of the hill&#8221; that should &#8220;spread Democracy&#8221; and free markets. If America doesn&#8217;t shrink the gap, genocide will occur.</p>
<p>The most optimal way to subvert the population to shrink the gap is by combining the powers of political correctness with that of patriotic correctness.  Tom Barnett is very effective at this.  He combined his Marxist roots with tough talk that appeals to the right.  He&#8217;s a natural showmen as well. </p>
<p>He described Samuel Huntington as being a &#8220;scared old white man&#8221; for bringing up the possibility of ethnic conflict in the future. This shows Barnett&#8217;s skills in the use of political correctness and white male bashing.  During the Presidential campaign, Barnett liked pointing how he supported Obama every chance he could.  Barnett understands he must reach the left in order to shrink the gap.  </p>
<p>At the same time, Barnett attracts the military industrail complex (MIC) for obvious reasons.  There&#8217;s big money to spent fixing the world, and since the military is &#8220;never coming home,&#8221; this money is going to flow for a long time.</p>
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		<title>By: tdaxp</title>
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		<dc:creator>tdaxp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 03:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s closer to 4G -- a battle of ideas.  Some people believe &quot;diversity is strength.&quot;  Others don&#039;t.  Some use the idea as proxies for something else.

But for a fighting force that is too weak to use ideas as weapons, they have to retreat to 5G tactics, where the popularity or not of an idea does not matter.  

Consider the military-industrial-complex, which seemingly everyone despises, but still hums along.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s closer to 4G &#8212; a battle of ideas.  Some people believe &#8220;diversity is strength.&#8221;  Others don&#8217;t.  Some use the idea as proxies for something else.</p>
<p>But for a fighting force that is too weak to use ideas as weapons, they have to retreat to 5G tactics, where the popularity or not of an idea does not matter.  </p>
<p>Consider the military-industrial-complex, which seemingly everyone despises, but still hums along.</p>
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		<title>By: Seerov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seerov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 03:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;America needs to subvert her own population, to enlist Americans, to shrink the Gap.&quot; (Tdaxp)

In my study of ethnic management in America, I&#039;ve concluded that this &quot;subversion&quot; strategy is already in use widely.  I call it &quot;Operation: Diversity is Strength.&quot;  

Does this mean that 5GW is being conducted against our own citizens, or is subversion just a 5GW method of calling citizens to war?  So during WWII when we fought a 2GW against the Axis powers, we had a draft, and everyone was singing &quot;Over There, Over There.&quot;  The 5GW equivalent is subverting the population into the war. This time the song is &quot;Give Peace a Chance&quot; while the smelliest hippies join the war effort by serving in the Peace Corps (building wells in the Congo).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;America needs to subvert her own population, to enlist Americans, to shrink the Gap.&#8221; (Tdaxp)</p>
<p>In my study of ethnic management in America, I&#8217;ve concluded that this &#8220;subversion&#8221; strategy is already in use widely.  I call it &#8220;Operation: Diversity is Strength.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Does this mean that 5GW is being conducted against our own citizens, or is subversion just a 5GW method of calling citizens to war?  So during WWII when we fought a 2GW against the Axis powers, we had a draft, and everyone was singing &#8220;Over There, Over There.&#8221;  The 5GW equivalent is subverting the population into the war. This time the song is &#8220;Give Peace a Chance&#8221; while the smelliest hippies join the war effort by serving in the Peace Corps (building wells in the Congo).</p>
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		<title>By: tdaxp</title>
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		<dc:creator>tdaxp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 22:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seerov,

I got the email -- very exciting!

As to 5GW as a defense against 4GW, I say more in my chapter in &lt;i&gt;Threats in the Age of Obama&lt;/i&gt; [1], but my earlier post in defense of the money/fantasy machine [2] makes much the same point:

&lt;i&gt;Both posts can be summarized like this: America needs to subvert her own population, to enlist Americans, to shrink the Gap. Most thinkers are stuck in a low-G paradigm, so obvious solutions are for “everyone to pitch in” (0GW), “organize everyone to shrink the gap” (1GW), write harshly-worded letters (4GW), etc.
However, a 5GW solution is wiser. If shrinking the Gap is a public policy option, it could be rejected. Shrinking the Gap is a long-term process, and should be insulated from politics as much as possible. We have a model of how to proceed.&lt;/i&gt;

Ideas are nice.  Money is real.

[1] http://www.nimblebooks.com/wordpress/2009/01/from-michael-tanjis-threats-in-the-age-of-obama/
[2] http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/06/12/5gw-shrinking-the-gap-the-moneyfantasy-machine.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seerov,</p>
<p>I got the email &#8212; very exciting!</p>
<p>As to 5GW as a defense against 4GW, I say more in my chapter in <i>Threats in the Age of Obama</i> [1], but my earlier post in defense of the money/fantasy machine [2] makes much the same point:</p>
<p><i>Both posts can be summarized like this: America needs to subvert her own population, to enlist Americans, to shrink the Gap. Most thinkers are stuck in a low-G paradigm, so obvious solutions are for “everyone to pitch in” (0GW), “organize everyone to shrink the gap” (1GW), write harshly-worded letters (4GW), etc.<br />
However, a 5GW solution is wiser. If shrinking the Gap is a public policy option, it could be rejected. Shrinking the Gap is a long-term process, and should be insulated from politics as much as possible. We have a model of how to proceed.</i></p>
<p>Ideas are nice.  Money is real.</p>
<p>[1] <a href="http://www.nimblebooks.com/wordpress/2009/01/from-michael-tanjis-threats-in-the-age-of-obama/" rel="nofollow">http://www.nimblebooks.com/wordpress/2009/01/from-michael-tanjis-threats-in-the-age-of-obama/</a><br />
[2] <a href="http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/06/12/5gw-shrinking-the-gap-the-moneyfantasy-machine.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2007/06/12/5gw-shrinking-the-gap-the-moneyfantasy-machine.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Seerov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seerov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A 4GW can be defended by a 5GW,&quot; (tdaxp)

Can you explain this?

&quot;Not at all — though I was hoping for an agreement to write a chapter.&quot; (tdaxp)

Did you get the email I sent you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A 4GW can be defended by a 5GW,&#8221; (tdaxp)</p>
<p>Can you explain this?</p>
<p>&#8220;Not at all — though I was hoping for an agreement to write a chapter.&#8221; (tdaxp)</p>
<p>Did you get the email I sent you?</p>
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		<title>By: tdaxp</title>
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		<dc:creator>tdaxp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 19:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seerov,

&lt;blockquote&gt;This may be where the Resilient Community comes in?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think so.  A 4GW can be defended by a 5GW, but besides throwing up static (to make it hard for 5GW groups to exist) and being resilient, I&#039;m not sure what a defense against 5GW would look like.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Are you saying you want us to go to that thread to continue this conversation?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not at all -- though I was hoping for an agreement to write a chapter. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seerov,</p>
<blockquote><p>This may be where the Resilient Community comes in?</p></blockquote>
<p>I think so.  A 4GW can be defended by a 5GW, but besides throwing up static (to make it hard for 5GW groups to exist) and being resilient, I&#8217;m not sure what a defense against 5GW would look like.</p>
<blockquote><p>Are you saying you want us to go to that thread to continue this conversation?</p></blockquote>
<p>Not at all &#8212; though I was hoping for an agreement to write a chapter. <img src='http://www.tdaxp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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