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	<title>Comments on: Building a Table of Contents for &#8220;5GW: The Fifth Generation of War?&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: tdaxp &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Handbook of 5GW in publishing queue</title>
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		<dc:creator>tdaxp &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Handbook of 5GW in publishing queue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 14:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] received an email from the publisher of Nimble Books, which is the company that is producing the The Handbook of 5GW: A Fifth Generation of War? for sale.  Currently there are around 21 forthcoming Nimble Books, with the Handbook in place # 8. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] received an email from the publisher of Nimble Books, which is the company that is producing the The Handbook of 5GW: A Fifth Generation of War? for sale.  Currently there are around 21 forthcoming Nimble Books, with the Handbook in place # 8. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: tdaxp</title>
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		<dc:creator>tdaxp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 15:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred,

I agree.

An area I see this is academic journal publishing, where physical copies of the journals are valuabel to those who want to read the latest of what is going on at their leisure (without worrying about the consequences of dropping the reading device!), while PDF or online access is used to quickly find a relevent citation, or to quickly learn a lot about a very narrow topic.

They are complimentary approaches...  too bad Wikipedia (and the academic bias against including anything beginning with http in the references list) do not agree! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred,</p>
<p>I agree.</p>
<p>An area I see this is academic journal publishing, where physical copies of the journals are valuabel to those who want to read the latest of what is going on at their leisure (without worrying about the consequences of dropping the reading device!), while PDF or online access is used to quickly find a relevent citation, or to quickly learn a lot about a very narrow topic.</p>
<p>They are complimentary approaches&#8230;  too bad Wikipedia (and the academic bias against including anything beginning with http in the references list) do not agree! <img src='http://www.tdaxp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Fred Zimmerman</title>
		<link>http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2009/02/05/building-a-table-of-contents-for-5gw-the-fifth-generation-of-war.html/comment-page-1#comment-241428</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Zimmerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 13:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an aside, I prefer &quot;write-protected&quot; as a term of art over &quot;dead tree.&quot; For me, &quot;the war is over&quot; when I have fixed the book in its digital expression as a production-ready PDF. It can go anywhere after that (and often does!) 

Believe me, as soon as someone comes up with a flexible, lightweight, long-battery-life, 600 dpi, high-contrast screen with CMYK color, 8 x 10. wireless tablet, I will be all over it. 

Dan&#039;s first book, Revolutionary Strategies in Early Christianity, is &lt;a href=&quot;http://books.google.com/books?id=hPhNpLOO2OQC&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;dq=revolutionary+strategies+dan+abbott&amp;ei=hG6ZSaGLE5-aMtLg3KYJ&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;available on Google Book Search&lt;/a&gt;, and THREATS and the others in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nimblebooks.com/aom/shop.php?c=Obama&amp;x=Age_of_Obama&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;AGE OF  OBAMA&lt;/a&gt; series soon will be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an aside, I prefer &#8220;write-protected&#8221; as a term of art over &#8220;dead tree.&#8221; For me, &#8220;the war is over&#8221; when I have fixed the book in its digital expression as a production-ready PDF. It can go anywhere after that (and often does!) </p>
<p>Believe me, as soon as someone comes up with a flexible, lightweight, long-battery-life, 600 dpi, high-contrast screen with CMYK color, 8 x 10. wireless tablet, I will be all over it. </p>
<p>Dan&#8217;s first book, Revolutionary Strategies in Early Christianity, is <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=hPhNpLOO2OQC&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;dq=revolutionary+strategies+dan+abbott&amp;ei=hG6ZSaGLE5-aMtLg3KYJ" rel="nofollow">available on Google Book Search</a>, and THREATS and the others in the <a href="http://www.nimblebooks.com/aom/shop.php?c=Obama&amp;x=Age_of_Obama" rel="nofollow">AGE OF  OBAMA</a> series soon will be.</p>
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		<title>By: tdaxp</title>
		<link>http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2009/02/05/building-a-table-of-contents-for-5gw-the-fifth-generation-of-war.html/comment-page-1#comment-241349</link>
		<dc:creator>tdaxp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 23:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Purpleslog wrote a fantastic one -- extremely clear, informative, and well cited.  (I think I have a copy of it somewhere...)

For citing &quot;web-based research,&quot; it was deleted and sent into oblivion.

This is one advantage of what Nimble allows us to do.  When something is on dead-tree -- and even better, easily accessible in a place like Google Book Search -- it becomes wiki-compatible, allowing it to enter the minds of even those who close themselves off to thinking that is not done in traditional mediums.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Purpleslog wrote a fantastic one &#8212; extremely clear, informative, and well cited.  (I think I have a copy of it somewhere&#8230;)</p>
<p>For citing &#8220;web-based research,&#8221; it was deleted and sent into oblivion.</p>
<p>This is one advantage of what Nimble allows us to do.  When something is on dead-tree &#8212; and even better, easily accessible in a place like Google Book Search &#8212; it becomes wiki-compatible, allowing it to enter the minds of even those who close themselves off to thinking that is not done in traditional mediums.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Zimmerman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred Zimmerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 22:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an aside, my experience has been that whenever I add something to Wikipedia that I actually know about, an army of bot-like editors comes along and removes it because I have a conflict of interest.  Their policies tend to favor second-hand information... so I strongly suggest we start off inside Google Docs or some other collaboration tool.

But I agree it would be fun to put the chapter up on Wiki and see what happens!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an aside, my experience has been that whenever I add something to Wikipedia that I actually know about, an army of bot-like editors comes along and removes it because I have a conflict of interest.  Their policies tend to favor second-hand information&#8230; so I strongly suggest we start off inside Google Docs or some other collaboration tool.</p>
<p>But I agree it would be fun to put the chapter up on Wiki and see what happens!</p>
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		<title>By: tdaxp</title>
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		<dc:creator>tdaxp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 22:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Purpleslog, it would be very cool to create a chapter out of the ill-fated entry you wrote for Wikipedia, with an introduction briefly describing Wikipedia&#039;s deletion of it.

Then, because it would have a dead-tree source, we could add it to Wikipedia and see what happens!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Purpleslog, it would be very cool to create a chapter out of the ill-fated entry you wrote for Wikipedia, with an introduction briefly describing Wikipedia&#8217;s deletion of it.</p>
<p>Then, because it would have a dead-tree source, we could add it to Wikipedia and see what happens!</p>
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		<title>By: purpleslog</title>
		<link>http://www.tdaxp.com/archive/2009/02/05/building-a-table-of-contents-for-5gw-the-fifth-generation-of-war.html/comment-page-1#comment-241330</link>
		<dc:creator>purpleslog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 21:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could never get my login working on the Timeline, but  I didn&#039;t pursue it too hard.

I had started on a history as part of the ill-fated wikipedia page. A timeline article could start that way.

Doing it in goolge docs would be a good way for a glossary and &quot;A Short History of 5GW Theorizing&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could never get my login working on the Timeline, but  I didn&#8217;t pursue it too hard.</p>
<p>I had started on a history as part of the ill-fated wikipedia page. A timeline article could start that way.</p>
<p>Doing it in goolge docs would be a good way for a glossary and &#8220;A Short History of 5GW Theorizing&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Zimmerman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred Zimmerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 20:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, let&#039;s think positive about updating the 5GW timeline.  I see reason for optimism that it&#039;s not an impossible task for a team (why don&#039;t we use Google Docs?)

 Some subsequent posts are more important than others, and we need not be entirely subjective about it -- you could do some Technorati or Google Blog Search queries to find the posts containing [5GW] and synonyms that have generated the most inbound links, and include every post over a numeric threshold.  to be sure, there needs to be a subjective or analytic component to selecting the posts that have been most influential, those that have started new &quot;branches&quot; of the tree, those that have relied upon/reached into other disciplines, etc...

Fred</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, let&#8217;s think positive about updating the 5GW timeline.  I see reason for optimism that it&#8217;s not an impossible task for a team (why don&#8217;t we use Google Docs?)</p>
<p> Some subsequent posts are more important than others, and we need not be entirely subjective about it &#8212; you could do some Technorati or Google Blog Search queries to find the posts containing [5GW] and synonyms that have generated the most inbound links, and include every post over a numeric threshold.  to be sure, there needs to be a subjective or analytic component to selecting the posts that have been most influential, those that have started new &#8220;branches&#8221; of the tree, those that have relied upon/reached into other disciplines, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>Fred</p>
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		<title>By: Curtis Gale Weeks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curtis Gale Weeks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 19:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not all the D5GW contributors contributed to the Time Line.  In fact, I was the only one to work on it (with the exception of one solitary entry I think?).

If you would like to convert it, feel free, since I doubt I&#039;ll have the time to do so myself; if you would like to collaborate on the annotations or use something from the summaries I wrote, we can go halvsies on the credits for it.

My greatest regret for the Time Line is that I stopped expanding it when the sequence reached D5GW-era posts.  The reason?  There would have been so many -- each D5GW blog entry -- and at the time it would have felt like redundancy besides requiring so much effort to recap all of them.

Since the ending of my work on the Time Line, a great many more blogs and authors have contributed to the discussion of 5GW; 5GW theory has taken so many more routes; so that the Time Line as it currently stands (including as well the absence of D5GW-related entries) seems pathetically insufficient to the task of chronicling the discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not all the D5GW contributors contributed to the Time Line.  In fact, I was the only one to work on it (with the exception of one solitary entry I think?).</p>
<p>If you would like to convert it, feel free, since I doubt I&#8217;ll have the time to do so myself; if you would like to collaborate on the annotations or use something from the summaries I wrote, we can go halvsies on the credits for it.</p>
<p>My greatest regret for the Time Line is that I stopped expanding it when the sequence reached D5GW-era posts.  The reason?  There would have been so many &#8212; each D5GW blog entry &#8212; and at the time it would have felt like redundancy besides requiring so much effort to recap all of them.</p>
<p>Since the ending of my work on the Time Line, a great many more blogs and authors have contributed to the discussion of 5GW; 5GW theory has taken so many more routes; so that the Time Line as it currently stands (including as well the absence of D5GW-related entries) seems pathetically insufficient to the task of chronicling the discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: tdaxp</title>
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		<dc:creator>tdaxp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 00:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic!!!

Did you want to turn it into a &quot;chapter&quot; in the volume?

If not, I can edit a joint chapter, with all of the D5GW contributors as co-authors.

Thanks Curtis!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic!!!</p>
<p>Did you want to turn it into a &#8220;chapter&#8221; in the volume?</p>
<p>If not, I can edit a joint chapter, with all of the D5GW contributors as co-authors.</p>
<p>Thanks Curtis!!!</p>
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