6 Responses to Chinese and Russian Reactions to Russia’s sinking of the Chinese ship ‘New Star’

1. purpleslog
   February 23rd, 2009 at 6:39 am

   Fascinating! TDAXP is the first place I have heard of this.

2. tdaxp
   February 23rd, 2009 at 6:48 am

   Purpleslog,

   Thanks! I need to credit Lady of tdaxp, who asked me what I thought of the Russian sinking of the Chinese shp.

   “What?!” I asked.

   “It is all over the forums,” my wife responded. “Chinese people are very angry, that the government says this is only ‘unacceptable.’ A ship is sunk, people drown, and it is only unacceptable?”

3. Lexington Green
   February 23rd, 2009 at 10:31 am

   It is like the KAL jetliner incident. The Russians rarely pass up a chance to act barbarically and show their disdain for the value of human life.

4. tdaxp
   February 23rd, 2009 at 2:01 pm

   Chinese [1] and English [2] wiki pages on KAL 007 are available [1,2], and provide some context for Lexington’s comment.

   [1] http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/大韓航空007號班機空難
   [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Lines_Flight_007

5. fabius.maximus.cunctator
   February 24th, 2009 at 3:32 am

   Dan

   There was little reaction to this in the German and French press as. Same for the US / UK publications I usually look at.

   I do not much like that as the incident fits in w the recent murders of journalists, arbitrary detentions, the recent gas pipeline stuff, tea à la FSB (with Polonium) for dissidents, renationalistions in the energy sector and so on and so forth. All this is worth a closer look IMO.

   Only the journalist angle was given some attention by the western journos. Nothing to say against professional solidarity oc, but what about all the other stuff ?

   Btw, merchant seamen are not news as they usually come from small or otherwise uninteresting countries (Holland, Greece or Denmark for officers, Asia or countries like ex YU for the “other ranks”). Ugly, but there it is.

   Finally, all the stuff about fines and contracts is rather bizarre. Now, I happen to know a bit about how to deal with maritime claims and customs laws and such. Having the other party sunk is certainly an interesting new solution to this kind of problem. Never heard of it before in that context.

6. tdaxp
   February 24th, 2009 at 4:20 pm

   fabius.maximus.cunctator,

   Thanks for the comment!

   There was little reaction to this in the German and French press as. Same for the US / UK publications I usually look at.

   I do not much like that as the incident fits in w the recent murders of journalists, arbitrary detentions, the recent gas pipeline stuff, tea à la FSB (with Polonium) for dissidents, renationalistions in the energy sector and so on and so forth. All this is worth a closer look IMO.

   I did not think of this. Very distressing.

   Finally, all the stuff about fines and contracts is rather bizarre. Now, I happen to know a bit about how to deal with maritime claims and customs laws and such. Having the other party sunk is certainly an interesting new solution to this kind of problem. Never heard of it before in that context.

   Yeah, I was not sure of the laws governing such disputes, but I would imagine a default judgment is a much more likely consequence of not paying a fine and not showing up for a trial than 500+ rounds!

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